[manet] L2/L3 MANETs (Re: Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-m anet-inet-gap-analysis-04.txt)

Hi AB, now that the subject is out in the open I am not willing to walk back the distinction the draft now makes between L2/L3 MANETs. You in the past have argued for keeping things together in one draft instead of splitting into multiple. This draft articulates the MANET Internetworking architecture, where an understanding of MANET layering is necessary to understand the larger architecture.

The L2/L3 MANET cat is now out of the bag, and we are not going to get it back in – nor should we even want to try.

Thank you - Fred

From: Abdussalam Baryun <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2026 10:12 PM
To: Templin (US), Fred L <[email protected]>
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Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [manet] Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-manet-inet-gap-analysis-04.txt

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Hi Fred,

Thanks for your update. I am not sure what was agreed on so far from this WG regarding L3 and L2  routers, however, I think it is important not to make this draft complicated, so I suggest issues relating to L3_manet_routers and L2_routers is out of scope of this draft. I remember that past authors manet RFCs preferred not to mention layers (or leave it as IP_manet_routers, because manet technologies may use different layers but it is more simple to separate draft with focus on such issues. There was one comment on this WG_list related to this by chris but not sure which thread subject.

so I suggest we delete this definition below of draft-04 and leave it as draft-3 :


MANET Router

      a node that runs a routing protocol over one or more MANET

      interfaces to establish multihop forwarding paths within a local

      routing region.  Forwarding nodes in both L2- and L3-MANETs are

      considered "routers" even when forwarding is based on MAC

      addresses.  All MANET routers are also considered MANET nodes, but

      not all MANET nodes necessarily act as MANET routers.

On Thu, Jul 30, 2026 at 6:39 PM Templin (US), Fred L <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
This draft version was necessary to introduce the distinction between L2- and L3-MANET and to show how both models fit within the MANET Internetworking problem space.

suggest that needs a separate draft, because I think there is one WG RFC that defines already the routers or the model we are focusing on, so yes this is interesting but I think it will make this draft more complicated.

however, my coming review will comment on draft as soon as I finish.

thanks
AB

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