Re: MBONED Digest, Vol 134, Issue 10

Agreed. My answer to the question is that we shouldn't discuss any
use of ASM we don't suggest to change. That would be a whole other BCP.
Fun BCP, but lets serialize.

Subsections of 4. discuss how going SSM interdomain can impact and
be sarted also with intradomain SSM capable apps. Thats i think the correct
extend.

My abstract text change especially mentioning PIM-SM wasnt helpful (with James 
even better example of intradomain ASM wit Bidir-PIM). But explaining
exactly when/why to use intradomain ASM Bidir vs. ASM is exactly
not in scope of this draft.


Cheers
    Toerless


On Mon, Apr 02, 2018 at 06:59:03AM +0000, Tim Chown wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> > On 2 Apr 2018, at 05:31, James A. (Jim) Stevens <[email protected]> wrote:
> > 
> > Toerless, we are using Bidir-PIM.
> > 
> > I haven't been tracking ???RFC 8364, but from just glancing at it, I think Bidir-PIM is probably better for these bursty source/destination multicast applications as well as being an existing standard available in some routers and host operating systems. Doesn't mean I couldn't change my opinion as I learn more and it becomes widely available, however.
> 
> Certainly BIDIR and PFM have their use cases intradomain. The question is how much we talk about these in the draft. The thrust of the document is on removing ASM components from interdomain scenarios.
> 
> Tim
> 
> > Cheers,
> > Jim
> > 
> > On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 8:03 AM, Toerless Eckert <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Thanks, James, Tim
> > 
> > Agreed. That additional text in the abstract didn't add good value *sigh*
> > 
> > Can i ask whether you are using PIM-SM or Bidir-PIM for these type of apps ?
> > Always particularily curious about how well PIM-SM with bursty sources
> > does work well (or not) in different scenarios. E.g: Do you think that
> > ??????RFC 8364 would work equally well for your app environment ?
> > 
> > Cheers
> >     Toerless
> > 
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