Re: IP changeover Procedures

Akhil Jain <[email protected]> Thu, 10 Dec 2009 13:16:26 +0530 (IST)
Newsgroups gmane.ietf.megaco
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Hi Schwarz,
Sorry for delay in responding. Here is the detailed info:
1. MGC makes an association with peer gateway.It fills MID as [email protected] and fills ServiceChangeAddress as IP1.2. Now IP1 goes down at MGC end.3. MGC is now sending a ServiceChange Message (Method Handoff) from IP2 with MID as [email protected] and fills MGCIDtotry field with IP2.
So shall MG be able to handle the request and will it reply to IP2 ?

ThanksAkhil Jain
--- On Tue, 1/12/09, Schwarz Albrecht <[email protected]> wrote:

From: Schwarz Albrecht <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [Megaco] IP changeover Procedures
To: "Akhil Jain" <[email protected]>, [email protected]
Date: Tuesday, 1 December, 2009, 11:29 AM



 
 
 
Akhil,
it's difficult to answer your questions because there's 
some information missing.
The constitution of a CA (Control Association) is 
tightly coupled to the MID (see § 5.2/H.Sup7).
The MID values are missing on your 
scenarios.
Please provide that info, too.
 
Concerning the ServiceChangeMgcID scenario, could you please 
refer to § 8/H.Sup7 (§ 8.2) and indicate the difference?
 
Concerning the ServiceChangeAddress scenario, H.Sup7 is fairly 
clear that this parameter may be used for IP interface redirections, during CA 
establishment phases (i.e., the CA is NOT yet existent). Again pls refer to 
H.Sup7?
 


  
  
  From: [email protected] 
  [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Akhil 
  Jain
Sent: Donnerstag, 26. November 2009 06:09
To: 
  [email protected]; Kevin Boyle
Subject: Re: [Megaco] IP changeover 
  Procedures


  
  
    
    
      Hi,
        

        Can someone please help ?
        

        --Akhil Jain

--- On Sat, 21/11/09, Akhil Jain 
        <[email protected]> wrote:

        
From: 
          Akhil Jain <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [Megaco] 
          IP changeover Procedures
To: [email protected], "Kevin Boyle" 
          <[email protected]>
Date: Saturday, 21 November, 2009, 9:33 
          PM


          
          
            
            
              Hi Kevin,
                

                Thanks for the reply. So if MGC-active sends a Service 
                change from IP2 (as IP1 has been down) then shall it will fill 
                Handoff as reason and new IP address as IP2 in MGCIDtotry field 
                ? If that is the case then shall MG will reply on the new IP 
                i.e. IP2 ? Kindly help.
                

                Thanks
                Akhil Jain

--- On Wed, 18/11/09, Kevin Boyle 
                <[email protected]> wrote:

                
From: 
                  Kevin Boyle <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [Megaco] 
                  IP changeover Procedures
To: "'Akhil Jain'" 
                  <[email protected]>, [email protected]
Date: 
                  Wednesday, 18 November, 2009, 8:49 PM


                   
                  Hi Akhil,
                   
                  A change of address for the 
                  MGC implies a new control association.  That does not 
                  necessarily mean that any contexts will be altered; all it 
                  means is that the control association has undergone a 
                  change.  It is up to the MGC to clean up anything on the 
                  MG that is out-of-whack.  Given that this is really the 
                  same MGC (though the MG cannot possibly know that), the MGC 
                  can choose to take NO action and continue everything as it 
                  is.  I will note that the change of interface will take a 
                  non-zero amount of time, so there is the possibility that 
                  messages will be lost.  The spec is pretty clear that the 
                  MG has to send replies back to where the command came from, so 
                  there is no way that a change of IP address can not result in 
                  a change of association (see H.248.1, Clause 
                  9).
                   
                  There is no way the MG could 
                  know that the MGC is the same one after the change of 
                  interfaces.  Please see H.248.1 Annex F for normative 
                  details on the ServiceChange procedures that are then used in 
                  the overall procedures in Supplement 7.
                   
                  Kevin

                  
                    
                    
                    From: 
                    [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] 
                    On Behalf Of Akhil Jain
Sent: Wednesday, 
                    November 18, 2009 5:30 AM
To: 
                    [email protected]
Subject: [Megaco] IP changeover 
                    Procedures


                    
                    
                      
                      
                        Hi All, 
                          

                          Per our Implementation, we need to provide 
                          Interface Redundancy at MGC end, the architecture we 
                          were going to implement is MGC-Active will have 2 IP 
                          interfaces and MGC-Standby will have 2 IP 
                          interfaces.Can someone help in answering following 
                          things:
                          

                          1. If an Association has been established between 
                          MGC-Active (IP1) and peer MG, and now IP1 of 
                          MGC-Active has gone down and IP-2 of MGC-Active needs 
                          to takeover without breaking the current control 
                          association how can we achieve that? 
                          <<< Per "Updated 
                          Draft ITU-T H.Sup7 “Gateway Control Protocol: 
                          Establishment Procedures for the H.248 MGC-MG Control 
                          Association” (Ed. 0.14)" ServiceChangeAddress field 
                          can be used by MGC to tell new IP address for 
                          remaining association. But the document has suggested 
                          the use of Service Change Address field in the 
                          "Association Establishment Phase".
                          Another 
                          thing if MGC sends ServiceChangeMethod as "Handoff" 
                          then It would mean that MGC wants a new association 
                          but that is not the case, MGC only wants to change the 
                          address for rest of the association. 
                          >>>
                          

                          2. If 
                          we use MGCIDtotry field in the ServiceChange command 
                          then MGC will send this command through IP2 (as IP1 of 
                          MGC has been down) so, how will MG got to know that 
                          this request has been sent by MGC that has been 
                          registered on IP1. Shall it recognizes the MGC via MID 
                          ?
                          

                          Kindly 
                          help!
                          

                          Thanks
                          Akhil 
                          Jain

                    
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