Re: 3GPP RTP header extension

"Schwarz, Albrecht (Albrecht)" <[email protected]> Mon, 3 Jun 2013 08:10:10 +0000
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The subject was also on the agenda of 3GPP CT4 at last meeting.

It may be noted that RFC 5285 is special with regards to the definition of =
two capabilities of
a) IP data path (RTP header extension; clause 4/RFC 5285) and
b) IP signaling path (SDP signalling; ; clauses 5&6/RFC 5285)
in a single RFC. Both capabilities could be also defined in separated RFCs.

The tight coupling of both capabilities in a single RFC may be interpreted =
in the following: the network should not forward RTP packets with extended =
headers in case of missing SDP "a=3Dextmap:" signalling or/and failed SDP O=
/A.

E.g., an interim RTP translator (RTP transport translator or RTP media tran=
slator) would block RTP packets with extension headers (dependent on above =
SDP O/A ...).

Conclusion:
there seems to be some implicit semantics in RFC 5285 in my understanding.

Regards,
Albrecht


From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of=
 Christer Holmberg
Sent: Freitag, 24. Mai 2013 12:06
To: [email protected]
Subject: [MMUSIC] 3GPP RTP header extension

Hi,

In the virtual interim meeting yesterday, I was requested to look into the =
RTP header extension(s) defined by 3GPP.

3GPP SA4 has defined a header extension for "Coordination of Video Orientat=
ion" purpose (may be of interest for CLUE btw, but that's a separate story)=
. The length of the extension is 1 byte.

For more information, see section 7.4.5 of 3GPP TS 24.114 :)

http://www.3gpp.org/ftp/Specs/archive/26_series/26.114/26114-c10.zip

Regards,

Christer

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:#1F497D">The subject was also on the a=
genda of 3GPP CT4 at last meeting.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:#1F497D">It may be noted that RFC 5285=
 is special with regards to the definition of two capabilities of
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:#1F497D">a) IP data path (RTP header e=
xtension; clause 4/RFC 5285) and
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:#1F497D">b) IP signaling path (SDP sig=
nalling; ; clauses 5&amp;6/RFC 5285)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:#1F497D">in a single RFC. Both capabil=
ities could be also defined in separated RFCs.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:#1F497D">The tight coupling of both ca=
pabilities in a single RFC may be interpreted in the following: the network=
 should not forward RTP packets with extended headers
 in case of missing SDP &#8220;a=3Dextmap:&#8221; signalling or/and failed =
SDP O/A.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:#1F497D">E.g., an interim RTP translat=
or (RTP transport translator or RTP media translator) would block RTP packe=
ts with extension headers (dependent on above SDP
 O/A &#8230;).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:#1F497D">Conclusion:<o:p></o:p></span>=
</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:#1F497D">there seems to be some implic=
it semantics in RFC 5285 in my understanding.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:#1F497D">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p=
>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:#1F497D">Albrecht<o:p></o:p></span></p=
>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
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ot;sans-serif&quot;"> [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]=
rg]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Christer Holmberg<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Freitag, 24. Mai 2013 12:06<br>
<b>To:</b> [email protected]<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [MMUSIC] 3GPP RTP header extension<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Hi,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">In the virtual interim meeting =
yesterday, I was requested to look into the RTP header extension(s) defined=
 by 3GPP.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">3GPP SA4 has defined a header e=
xtension for &#8220;Coordination of Video Orientation&#8221; purpose (may b=
e of interest for CLUE btw, but that&#8217;s a separate story). The length =
of the extension is 1 byte.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">For more information, see secti=
on 7.4.5 of 3GPP TS 24.114 :)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><a href=3D"http://www.3gpp.org/=
ftp/Specs/archive/26_series/26.114/26114-c10.zip">http://www.3gpp.org/ftp/S=
pecs/archive/26_series/26.114/26114-c10.zip</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Christer<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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