Aside to: Re: Re: [MMUSIC] Status of TURN

> I'm actually not very happy about this, myself, and would
> oppose pretty much any relaying technology.  Aside from the
> technical issues, among the unfortunate consequences of all
> this pre-midcom stuff has been that it's taken the pressure
> off of firewall/NAT vendors to do something useful.  That's
> not good.  But regardless of how I feel personally about all
> this stuff I really think that advancing an individual draft
> towards publication is not even remotely an abuse of IETF
> process.
>
> Melinda

Just to answer to the point you raised here Melinda, I think one of the
reasons FW/NAT vendors have not done useful things is that there isn't much
VoIP traffic out there.  There's not much VoIP traffic out there because it
doesn't go through FW/NAT very well!

My hope is that pre-midcom solutions will break that cycle.  They have their
limitations and that's what will move the technology on.

In other words, it might not be where you want to end up, but it's a
necessary stop on the way.

Pete.

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