Re: Call for adoption of draft-matsushima-spring-dmm-srv6-mobile-uplane-03 as DMM WG document

Charlie Perkins <[email protected]> Mon, 27 Nov 2017 14:06:38 -0800
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Hello folks,

The draft represents interesting work and I support adoption as a WG 
work item.

However, I also agree with Sri's assessment below.

I was co-author of source-routing proposals for both Mobile IPv4 and 
Mobile IPv6 that had many nice properties -- including minimal impact on 
the existing routing infrastructure.  There were similar proposals from 
several other authors.

All of them were soundly rejected.  So, it would be a good idea to find 
out what has changed during the last 15 years to make source routing 
"better" than it used to be.

Regards,
Charlie P.


On 11/14/2017 4:20 PM, Sri Gundavelli (sgundave) wrote:
> Please also note that the document is just a starting point and 
> requires significant amount of community efforts  and participation 
> before it can become a standard. The document does not address most of 
> the issues, but the proposal is promising enough and so would like to 
> take it up right away. Please comment.
>
> Dapping & Sri
>
>
> From: dmm <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> on 
> behalf of Sri Gundavelli <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
> Date: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 at 4:02 PM
> To: "[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>" <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>>
> Subject: [DMM] Call for adoption of 
> draft-matsushima-spring-dmm-srv6-mobile-uplane-03 as DMM WG document
>
> Folks:
>
> The following message commences a two week call for opinions on the 
> adoption of draft-matsushima-spring-dmm-srv6-mobile-uplane-03 as a DMM 
> Working document.
>
> ---
> The DMM working group is considering adopting the draft, 
> "draft-matsushima-spring-dmm-srv6-mobile-uplane-03” as a working group 
> document. The chairs have polled the room for opinions during IETF100, 
> and it was determined that there is good support for taking up this 
> work. The chairs would like to confirm the same in the mailing list. 
>  Please provide your feedback.
>
> Document Link:
> https://www.ietf.org/id/draft-matsushima-spring-dmm-srv6-mobile-uplane-03.txt
>
> Slides:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/100/materials/slides-100-dmm-srv6-for-mobile-user-plane/
>
> Background:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/100/materials/slides-100-dmm-mobile-data-plane-evolution-motivation-goals/
> ---
>
> Regards
> Dapping & Sri
>
>
>
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    <p>Hello folks,</p>
    <p>The draft represents interesting work and I support adoption as a
      WG work item.</p>
    <p>However, I also agree with Sri's assessment below.</p>
    <p>I was co-author of source-routing proposals for both Mobile IPv4
      and Mobile IPv6 that had many nice properties -- including minimal
      impact on the existing routing infrastructure.  There were similar
      proposals from several other authors.</p>
    <p>All of them were soundly rejected.  So, it would be a good idea
      to find out what has changed during the last 15 years to make
      source routing "better" than it used to be.</p>
    <p>Regards,<br>
      Charlie P.<br>
    </p>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/14/2017 4:20 PM, Sri Gundavelli
      (sgundave) wrote:<br>
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      <div>Please also note that the document is just a starting point
        and requires significant amount of community efforts  and
        participation before it can become a standard. The document does
        not address most of the issues, but the proposal is promising
        enough and so would like to take it up right away. Please
        comment.</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>Dapping &amp; Sri</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div> </div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
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          <span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span>dmm &lt;<a
            href="mailto:[email protected]" moz-do-not-send="true">[email protected]</a>&gt;
          on behalf of Sri Gundavelli &lt;<a
            href="mailto:[email protected]" moz-do-not-send="true">[email protected]</a>&gt;<br>
          <span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Tuesday, November
          14, 2017 at 4:02 PM<br>
          <span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span>"<a
            href="mailto:[email protected]" moz-do-not-send="true">[email protected]</a>"
          &lt;<a href="mailto:[email protected]" moz-do-not-send="true">[email protected]</a>&gt;<br>
          <span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>[DMM] Call for
          adoption of draft-matsushima-spring-dmm-srv6-mobile-uplane-03
          as DMM WG document<br>
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            <div>Folks:</div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>
              <div>The following message commences a two week call for
                opinions on the adoption
                of draft-matsushima-spring-dmm-srv6-mobile-uplane-03 as
                a DMM Working document. </div>
            </div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>---</div>
            <div>The DMM working group is considering adopting the
              draft, "draft-matsushima-spring-dmm-srv6-mobile-uplane-03”
              as a working group document. The chairs have polled the
              room for opinions during IETF100, and it was determined
              that there is good support for taking up this work. The
              chairs would like to confirm the same in the mailing list.
               Please provide your feedback.</div>
            <div>  </div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>
              <div>Document Link:</div>
              <div><a
href="https://www.ietf.org/id/draft-matsushima-spring-dmm-srv6-mobile-uplane-03.txt"
                  moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.ietf.org/id/draft-matsushima-spring-dmm-srv6-mobile-uplane-03.txt</a></div>
            </div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>Slides:</div>
            <div><a
href="https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/100/materials/slides-100-dmm-srv6-for-mobile-user-plane"
                moz-do-not-send="true">https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/100/materials/slides-100-dmm-srv6-for-mobile-user-plane</a>/</div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>Background:</div>
            <div><a
href="https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/100/materials/slides-100-dmm-mobile-data-plane-evolution-motivation-goals"
                moz-do-not-send="true">https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/100/materials/slides-100-dmm-mobile-data-plane-evolution-motivation-goals</a>/</div>
            <div>---</div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>Regards</div>
            <div>Dapping &amp; Sri</div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
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