Re: white paper for optimized mobile user plane solutions for 5G

Arashmid Akhavain <[email protected]> Thu, 18 Jan 2018 16:09:27 +0000
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Hi Kalyani,

I was thinking something along this:

A section on each competing architecture where we first provide a descripti=
on of each architecture.
A section on the list and set of features that 3GPP requires and must be su=
pported.

In the following sections we then make a deep dive into each architecture a=
nd describe/analyse how different architectures would support
each of the requested features.

Going through the above exercise we can perhaps tabulate the outcome of the=
 investigation in a format like:

Arch1      Arch-2     Arch-N
Feature-1
Feature-2
Feature-N

Considering pros and cons of each architecture against the request features=
, at this point we should be ready to reply back to 3GPP with our recommend=
ed architecture.

We then continue the work, and go into more details and follow the same for=
mat for different protocols supporting the recommended architecture and tab=
ulate the outcome as

Arch1.1         Arch1.2    Arch1.n
Feature-1
Feature-2
Feature-N

Taking ID-Location architecture as an example,  LISP/ILSR, ILNP, ILA, etc. =
will be Arch1.1, Arch1.2, Arch1.3, etc.

Now, here is my question. Have we already decided to go with the recommenda=
tion that ID-Location architecture should be the next generation of data pa=
th?
If everyone is on board with this, then your suggested outline fits the bil=
l and we can start working on it right away. If the decision hasn't been ma=
de then it would be perhaps a good idea to go one level up and talk about d=
ifferent architectures first. Mind you that I don't know and am simply curi=
ous to know what our starting point is.

Arashmid


From: Bogineni, Kalyani [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: 18 January 2018 10:21
To: Arashmid Akhavain <[email protected]>; Sri Gundavelli (sgund=
ave) <[email protected]>; [email protected]
Cc: AshwoodsmithPeter <[email protected]>; TongWen <tongwen@hua=
wei.com>; Bogineni, Kalyani <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [DMM] white paper for optimized mobile user plane solutions fo=
r 5G

Arashmid:

The individual sections are supposed to allow the proponents of the protoco=
ls to show how the 5G architecture will be when
their protocol is used with the focus on N9. The criteria section lists the=
 evaluation criteria from architectural perspective.

Do you see a need for a different kind of format?

Kalyani

From: Arashmid Akhavain [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2018 9:38 AM
To: Sri Gundavelli (sgundave) <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]=
>>; Bogineni, Kalyani <[email protected]<mailto:Kalyani.=
[email protected]>>; [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Cc: AshwoodsmithPeter <[email protected]<mailto:Peter.AshwoodSm=
[email protected]>>; TongWen <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: [E] RE: [DMM] white paper for optimized mobile user plane solution=
s for 5G

Hi Sri,
Thank you for your reply and clarifications.
I think Kalyani's work is extremely valuable, but we also need to set an st=
rategy for our reply back to 3GPP. Currently most discussions are about ind=
ividual protocols such as SRV6, LISP/ILSP, ILNP, ILA, etc. which are really=
 in one form or another a type of ID-Location approach.  I believe we first=
 need to address 3GPP's request from the architecture point of view, before=
 we dive into implementation details. Is there any discussion around differ=
ent competing network architectures?

Not sure if you have seen a white paper titled "Evolving 5G Routing" by Doc=
omo, Huawei and others. We also hosted a live webcast demo that shows two L=
TE slices using ID-Location for data path and distribute ID-Location inform=
ation to interested eNodeBs via public cloud pub/sub service. The result is=
 very promising and shows the capability of this architecture.

I believe the combination of the white paper and the demo could perhaps ser=
ve as a good starting point to get the architecture discussion going and th=
at's where conference calls can come handy. I agree though let's start with=
 the mailing list and move to calls next.

Best regards,
Arashmid Akhavain

From: Sri Gundavelli (sgundave) [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: 17 January 2018 17:53
To: Arashmid Akhavain <[email protected]<mailto:arashmid.akhavai=
[email protected]>>; Bogineni, Kalyani <[email protected]<mai=
lto:[email protected]>>; [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]=
g>
Subject: Re: [DMM] white paper for optimized mobile user plane solutions fo=
r 5G

Arashmid  - We do have regular DMM working group meeting during the IETF we=
ek. I guess, what you are asking for is a WG-chair scheduled conference cal=
ls? DMM List may be very quite, but there have been regular conf calls betw=
een authors of some of the WG documents. Authors of FPC host those calls re=
gularly. For the new work item that Kalyani is proposing, we need to have s=
ome discussions in the mailer and once the document is adopted as a WG docu=
ment, we can certainly host some calls (author/chair scheduled) on a need b=
asis. So, the first step is to post comments on the documents and trigger s=
ome discussions.


Sri



From: dmm <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> on behalf of =
Arashmid Akhavain <[email protected]<mailto:arashmid.akhavain@hu=
awei.com>>
Date: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 at 2:16 PM
To: "Bogineni, Kalyani" <[email protected]<mailto:Kalyan=
[email protected]>>, "[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>" <dmm@=
ietf.org<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: Re: [DMM] white paper for optimized mobile user plane solutions fo=
r 5G

Hi everyone,
Online meetings on a regular basis can perhaps help moving things forward.

Arashmid



From: dmm [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bogineni, Kalyani
Sent: 17 January 2018 15:20
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [DMM] white paper for optimized mobile user plane solutions fo=
r 5G

Folks:

Here is the draft with 3GPP architecture described as much as relevant to N=
9 interface.
I have extracted some diagrams from 3GPP specs and will redo them in ASCII =
after I get
some feedback on whether to include them or not in this document.

Kalyani

From: Bogineni, Kalyani
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 4:14 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Cc: Bogineni, Kalyani <[email protected]<mailto:Kalyani.=
[email protected]>>
Subject: white paper for optimized mobile user plane solutions for 5G

Folks:

In response to the 3GPP CT4 study item on user plane protocols, we propose =
that a white paper
be developed that can compare the different IETF protocols. Attached is an =
outline. Please let me
know if you would like to contribute.

Kalyani Bogineni
Verizon


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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN=
-US">Hi Kalyani,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN=
-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN=
-US">I was thinking something along this:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN=
-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN=
-US">A section on each competing architecture where we first provide a desc=
ription of each architecture.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN=
-US">A section on the list and set of features that 3GPP requires and must =
be supported.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN=
-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN=
-US">In the following sections we then make a deep dive into each architect=
ure and describe/analyse how different architectures would support<o:p></o:=
p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN=
-US">each of the requested features.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN=
-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN=
-US">Going through the above exercise we can perhaps tabulate the outcome o=
f the investigation in a format like:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;c=
olor:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:72.0pt;text-indent:36.0pt"><spa=
n style=3D"font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-la=
nguage:EN-US">Arch1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Arch-2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp; Arch-N<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;c=
olor:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Feature-1<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;c=
olor:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Feature-2<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;c=
olor:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Feature-N<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;c=
olor:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN=
-US">Considering pros and cons of each architecture against the request fea=
tures, at this point we should be ready to reply back to 3GPP with our reco=
mmended architecture.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN=
-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN=
-US">We then continue the work, and go into more details and follow the sam=
e format for different protocols supporting the recommended architecture an=
d tabulate the outcome as<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN=
-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:72.0pt;text-indent:36.0pt"><spa=
n style=3D"font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-la=
nguage:EN-US">Arch1.1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Arch1=
.2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Arch1.n<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;c=
olor:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Feature-1<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;c=
olor:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Feature-2<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;c=
olor:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Feature-N<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN=
-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN=
-US">Taking ID-Location architecture as an example, &nbsp;LISP/ILSR, ILNP, =
ILA, etc. will be Arch1.1, Arch1.2, Arch1.3, etc.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN=
-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN=
-US">Now, here is my question. Have we already decided to go with the recom=
mendation that ID-Location architecture should be the next generation of da=
ta path?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN=
-US">If everyone is on board with this, then your suggested outline fits th=
e bill and we can start working on it right away. If the decision hasn&#821=
7;t been made then it would be perhaps a good
 idea to go one level up and talk about different architectures first. Mind=
 you that I don&#8217;t know and am simply curious to know what our startin=
g point is.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN=
-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN=
-US">Arashmid<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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olor:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN=
-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang=
=3D"EN-US"> Bogineni, Kalyani [mailto:[email protected]]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 18 January 2018 10:21<br>
<b>To:</b> Arashmid Akhavain &lt;[email protected]&gt;; Sri Gund=
avelli (sgundave) &lt;[email protected]&gt;; [email protected]<br>
<b>Cc:</b> AshwoodsmithPeter &lt;[email protected]&gt;; TongWen=
 &lt;[email protected]&gt;; Bogineni, Kalyani &lt;Kalyani.Bogineni@Verizon=
Wireless.com&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [DMM] white paper for optimized mobile user plane solut=
ions for 5G<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Arashmi=
d:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">The ind=
ividual sections are supposed to allow the proponents of the protocols to s=
how how the 5G architecture will be when<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">their p=
rotocol is used with the focus on N9. The criteria section lists the evalua=
tion criteria from architectural perspective.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Do you =
see a need for a different kind of format?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Kalyani=
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang=
=3D"EN-US"> Arashmid Akhavain [<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]=
om">mailto:[email protected]</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 18, 2018 9:38 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Sri Gundavelli (sgundave) &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]=
om">[email protected]</a>&gt;; Bogineni, Kalyani &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:Kal=
[email protected]">[email protected]</a>=
&gt;;
<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> AshwoodsmithPeter &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:Peter.AshwoodSmith@huawe=
i.com">[email protected]</a>&gt;; TongWen &lt;<a href=3D"mailto=
:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [E] RE: [DMM] white paper for optimized mobile user plane s=
olutions for 5G<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Hi Sri,<o:p></o:p></sp=
an></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Thank you for your rep=
ly and clarifications.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">I think Kalyani&#8217;=
s work is extremely valuable, but we also need to set an strategy for our r=
eply back to 3GPP. Currently most discussions are about individual protocol=
s such as SRV6, LISP/ILSP, ILNP, ILA, etc.
 which are really in one form or another a type of ID-Location approach.&nb=
sp; I believe we first need to address 3GPP&#8217;s request from the archit=
ecture point of view, before we dive into implementation details. Is there =
any discussion around different competing network
 architectures?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Not sure if you have s=
een a white paper titled &#8220;Evolving 5G Routing&#8221; by Docomo, Huawe=
i and others. We also hosted a live webcast demo that shows two LTE slices =
using ID-Location for data path and distribute ID-Location
 information to interested eNodeBs via public cloud pub/sub service. The re=
sult is very promising and shows the capability of this architecture.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">I believe the combinat=
ion of the white paper and the demo could perhaps serve as a good starting =
point to get the architecture discussion going and that&#8217;s where confe=
rence calls can come handy. I agree though
 let&#8217;s start with the mailing list and move to calls next.<o:p></o:p>=
</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Best regards,<o:p></o:=
p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Arashmid Akhavain<o:p>=
</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang=
=3D"EN-US"> Sri Gundavelli (sgundave) [<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]=
">mailto:[email protected]</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 17 January 2018 17:53<br>
<b>To:</b> Arashmid Akhavain &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:arashmid.akhavain@huawei=
.com">[email protected]</a>&gt;; Bogineni, Kalyani &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:[email protected]">Kalyani.Bogineni@VerizonWi=
reless.com</a>&gt;;
<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DMM] white paper for optimized mobile user plane solut=
ions for 5G<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Arashmi=
d &nbsp;- We do have regular DMM working group meeting during the IETF week=
. I guess, what you are asking for is a WG-chair scheduled conference calls=
? DMM List may be very quite, but there have
 been regular conf calls between authors of some of the WG documents. Autho=
rs of FPC host those calls regularly. For the new work item that Kalyani is=
 proposing, we need to have some discussions in the mailer and once the doc=
ument is adopted as a WG document,
 we can certainly host some calls (author/chair scheduled) on a need basis.=
 So, the first step is to post comments on the documents and trigger some d=
iscussions.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Sri<o:p=
></o:p></span></p>
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<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
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<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
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<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
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0cm 0cm">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"color:black">From: </span></b><spa=
n style=3D"color:black">dmm &lt;</span><a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]=
rg">[email protected]</a><span style=3D"color:black">&gt; on behalf of A=
rashmid Akhavain &lt;</span><a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]"=
>[email protected]</a><span style=3D"color:black">&gt;<br>
<b>Date: </b>Wednesday, January 17, 2018 at 2:16 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>&quot;Bogineni, Kalyani&quot; &lt;</span><a href=3D"mailto:Kalya=
[email protected]">[email protected]</a><s=
pan style=3D"color:black">&gt;, &quot;</span><a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]=
">[email protected]</a><span style=3D"color:black">&quot; &lt;</span><a href=3D"=
mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a><span style=3D"color:black">&gt;<br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [DMM] white paper for optimized mobile user plane solut=
ions for 5G<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Hi everyone,</span><sp=
an style=3D"color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Online meetings on a r=
egular basis can perhaps help moving things forward.</span><span style=3D"c=
olor:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span><span sty=
le=3D"color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Arashmid</span><span s=
tyle=3D"color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span><span sty=
le=3D"color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span><span sty=
le=3D"color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span><span sty=
le=3D"color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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0cm 0cm">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:black">From:<=
/span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:black"> dmm [</span><a href=
=3D"mailto:[email protected]"><span lang=3D"EN-US">mailto:dmm-bounces@ie=
tf.org</span></a><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:black">]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Bogineni, Kalyani<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 17 January 2018 15:20<br>
<b>To:</b> </span><a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]"><span lang=3D"EN-US">dmm@=
ietf.org</span></a><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:black"><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DMM] white paper for optimized mobile user plane solut=
ions for 5G</span><span style=3D"color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span>=
</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Folks:<=
/span><span style=3D"color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">&nbsp;<=
/span><span style=3D"color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Here is=
 the draft with 3GPP architecture described as much as relevant to N9 inter=
face.
</span><span style=3D"color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">I have =
extracted some diagrams from 3GPP specs and will redo them in ASCII after I=
 get</span><span style=3D"color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">some fe=
edback on whether to include them or not in this document.
</span><span style=3D"color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">&nbsp;<=
/span><span style=3D"color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Kalyani=
</span><span style=3D"color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">&nbsp;<=
/span><span style=3D"color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:black">From:<=
/span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:black"> Bogineni, Kalyani
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, December 13, 2017 4:14 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> </span><a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]"><span lang=3D"EN-US">dmm@=
ietf.org</span></a><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:black"><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Bogineni, Kalyani &lt;</span><a href=3D"mailto:Kalyani.Bogineni@=
VerizonWireless.com"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Kalyani.Bogineni@VerizonWireless.=
com</span></a><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:black">&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> white paper for optimized mobile user plane solutions for 5=
G</span><span style=3D"color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:black">&nbsp;</s=
pan><span style=3D"color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:black">Folks:</s=
pan><span style=3D"color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:black">&nbsp;</s=
pan><span style=3D"color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:black">In respon=
se to the 3GPP CT4 study item on user plane protocols, we propose that a wh=
ite paper</span><span style=3D"color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:black">be develo=
ped that can compare the different IETF protocols. Attached is an outline. =
Please let me
</span><span style=3D"color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:black">know if y=
ou would like to contribute.
</span><span style=3D"color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:black">&nbsp;</s=
pan><span style=3D"color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:black">Kalyani B=
ogineni</span><span style=3D"color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:black">Verizon</=
span><span style=3D"color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:black">&nbsp;</s=
pan><span style=3D"color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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