Re: issue 45 - clarifications to security considerations
<[email protected]> Tue, 8 Nov 2005 02:33:03 +0200
| Newsgroups | gmane.ietf.mobike |
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| Message-ID | <[email protected]> |
Jari Arkko wrote: > Here's another attempt: > > Such an attack could also be defeated by use of negative > acknowledgements, such as TCP RST and ICMP errors. However, in > our case the victim lacks a valid SA and, as a result, is > incapable providing any other negative acknowledgements than > ICMP errors. Such errors may be filtered in many networks, and > has some denial-of-service issues itself. Hmm.. here's my take (add this to the end of the section): The duration of the attack can also be limited if the victim reports the unwanted traffic to the originating IPsec tunnel endpoint using ICMP error messages or INVALID_SPI notifications. As described in [IKEv2] Section 2.21, this SHOULD trigger a liveness test, which also doubles as a return routability check if the COOKIE2 notification is included. And while we're at it, we could also make the 3rd paragraph (the one referring to [Aura02] and transport layer acks) more accurate: If the attack is launched by an outsider, the traffic flow would normally stop soon due to the lack of responses (such as transport layer acknowledgements). However, if the original recipient of the flow is malicious, it could maintain the traffic flow for an extended period of time, since it often would be able to send the required acknowledgements (see [Aura02] for more discussion). Does this look ok? Best regards, Pasi