Re: Preliminary minutes from the WG last week

hi Jim,

with Mobile IPv6, one can create an IPsec 
protected Mobile IP tunnel between the mobile 
node and the home agent. further, the binding 
update is used as a trigger to update the IKE 
SA too. so Mobile IPv6 provides a solution 
similar to MOBIKE already. so that's why I don't 
expect someone to use the two together between 
the mobile node and the home agent.

Mobile IPv4 does not use IPsec and is a very
different protocol.

Vijay 

ps: FYI, the solution described in 
draft-ietf-mip4-mobike-connectivity-00 has 
been adopted by 3GPP2 for their 3GPP2-WLAN
interworking solution.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] 
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of James Kempf
> Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 9:41 AM
> To: Yaron Sheffer; 'Paul Hoffman'; [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Mobike] Preliminary minutes from the WG last week
> 
> Yaron,
> 
> Thanx for sending out pointers to these.
> 
> In the MIP6 group, there was some discussion about this, and 
> the message 
> that came up was, in fact, "don't do it". I'll post 
> references to these 
> drafts to the MIP6 list.
> 
>             jak
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Yaron Sheffer" <[email protected]>
> To: "'Paul Hoffman'" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>
> Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2006 3:38 AM
> Subject: Re: [Mobike] Preliminary minutes from the WG last week
> 
> 
> > Regarding the combination of MOBIKE and Mobile IP, there 
> are 3 current
> > drafts in MIP4 that deal with this:
> >
> > - draft-ietf-mip4-vpn-problem-solution-02 (this one is pre-MOBIKE)
> > - draft-ietf-mip4-mobike-connectivity-00
> > - draft-meghana-mip4-mobike-optimizations-00
> >
> > So it's a stretch to say "don't do" MOBIKE and Mobile IP together.
> >
> > Yaron
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Paul Hoffman [mailto:[email protected]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 5:49
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: [Mobike] Preliminary minutes from the WG last week
> >
> > Please let me know if you have any changes.
> >
> > MOBIKE WG minutes
> > IETF 65
> >
> > [deleted]
> >
> > James Kempf - discussion in Mobile IP group - what happens 
> if you try to
> > use Mobile IP and MOBIKE together? Some people believe the answer is
> > "don't do that". May need an informational draft (as a new 
> work item) to
> > address that.
> >
> > [deleted]
> >
> >
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