Re: draft-nordmark-multi6-threats-01.txt

Brian E Carpenter <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.ietf.multi6
Organization IBM
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Erik Nordmark wrote:
>>Well, I think that authenticated at this layer is very difficult.  One could
>>make a case that you could authenticate Santa Claus' IP address but not
>>Santa himself - what if one of his elves is actually talking to you, Erik?
> 
> 
> Of course. The names at this layer are some identifier - and many proposals
> have identifiers that are binary 128 bits. Thus "santa claus" was
> merely a prettier way than using 9993:8192:56bb:9258:34:99:8192:5882
> as the example.
> 
> So restating my example, a threat might be that an attacker can impersonate
> 9993:8192:56bb:9258:34:99:8192:5882 at the IP/multi6 layer.
> But I don't think this impersonation is a means to the end of being able
> to attack integrity, confidentiality, or availability.
> 
> Thus to me it doesn't seem to add anything listing "impersonation"
> at the same level as integrity, confidentiality, and availability.
> What does make sense is to look at how the ability to cause redirection
> has an impact on I, C, and A.

And we certainly should not attempt to solve at network or transport
level security issues that can only actually be solved at applications
level, where the network and all its characteristics like multihoming
are just viewed as a cloud anyway. If Santa Claus lets an elf use his
computer, that is not our problem.

    Brian
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