Re: Advantages and disadvantages of using CB64 type of identifiers

marcelo bagnulo braun <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.ietf.multi6
Message-ID <[email protected]>
El 05/07/2004, a las 8:12, Christian Huitema escribió:

>
>> i don't fully understand why do you think that having an identifier in
>> the address is worse than current IPv4 situation (where the id and
>> locator are one, and multihomed sites have a single address) or the
>> current IPv6 situation (i guess that something similar to privacy
>> extensions could be achieved by periodically creating new keys hence
>> new identifiers)
>
> First, I don't believe in arguments such as "this is not worse than 
> what
> we did in the past" when it comes to security and privacy. We should be
> on a path to improvement, not a soft descent into complacency.

imho it is not the goal of multi6 to improve current security.
i do agree that if it is possible to provide an enhanced security, it 
would be nice.
But i don't see the fact that a solution does not improve current 
security as a compelling argument to discard a solution

>  Second,
> having a unique 64 bit identifier in the addresses is actually worse
> than the current situation in either IPv4 or IPv6.
>
> In IPv4, the addresses are often dynamically affected; it is possible,
> if a site manager so chooses, to give nodes a different address at each
> session. Hosts using dial-up connections receive new addresses for each
> connection. Hosts using broadband connections often receive new
> addresses every 24 hours. When a host is multi-homed to several
> networks, it will indeed receive different IPv4 addresses on each of
> these networks.

> The current IPv6 practice is to have the 64 bit identifier be either an
> IEEE 802 identifier (default) or a random number (temporary addresses,
> SEND). When a host is multi-homed through several interfaces, the
> different identifiers are used on different interfaces. When a host
> configures addresses from multiple prefixes on the same interface, the
> 802 identifier will often be the same, but the random identifiers will
> be different. The current ND spec allows for using the same identifier
> with different prefixes, but it certainly does not mandate it.
>

Do you think that generating a new identifier every day would do the 
trick?

i mean it would be possible, as Erik mentions, to create a new crypto 
based id every day, i guess

regards, marcelo

> -- Christian Huitema
>
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