Re: Trust, and who knows what (was Re: SPF abused by spammers )

"Mark C. Langston" <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.ietf.mxcomp
Message-ID <[email protected]>
On Sun, Sep 19, 2004 at 10:57:22AM +0100, Chris Haynes wrote:
> 
>  "Alan DeKok" replied:
> >
> >   It's not the MAIL FROM which is flawed, it's the ability of the
> > recipient to believe the senders trust in the shared MTA, as anything
> > other than a statement of faith made by the vender.
> >
> 
> Ah! Now here we can agree. We may differ as to _whose_ trust is broken, but the
> crucial point is that a shared MTA is being trusted to have ensured that the
> sender is authorised to use the Mail-From. There is no indication in the SMTP
> protocol, or in the message headers, that this authorisation is actually taking
> place.
> 


But with SPF, the trust you're being asked to place is not whether the
sender is authorized to use that MAIL FROM:; it's whether the entity
connecting to your MTA (the destination MTA, presumably) is one
associated with the MAIL FROM: RHS.  It's a somewhat subtle, but
important, distinction.

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