Re: Language too strict in draft-ietf-marid-mailfrom-00

Frank Ellermann <[email protected]>
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Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote:

>> if someone publishes -all and gets important mail bounced
>> s/he can still decide to remove/change -all

> I agree. This is a local policy issue.

Yes and no.  Yes, s/he can still decide to do something.  But
I'd never remove or change a -all, there are better options.
Like using an alias of my address not covered by the sender
policy.  But so far I never had this problem.  But I got about
180,000 bounces and other side effects of forged MAIL FROMs in
six months (03-08).

I'd never remove the -all voluntarily.  And apparently no other
user of claranet.de vanity hosts had any problem (the wildcard
was added in May IIRC).

> "SHOULD publish SPF records that end in "-all"
> should be deleted or moved to "Security considerations" with
> a less demanding wording.

It's perfectly okay.  SPF without -all is about as efficient as
the new FUSSP RfC 3865 [some remarks about RfC 3865 censored,
because this would cost me the write access to MARID].  So add
whatever CAVEATs and warnings you want, but don't touch this
SHOULD.  SPF without -all is a complete waste of bandwidth and
time.  Bye, Frank
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