RE: So here it is one year later...

"Hallam-Baker, Phillip" <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.ietf.mxcomp
Message-ID <C6DDA43B91BFDA49AA2F1E473732113E010BEF8B@mou1wnexm05.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com>
The main point of the Web page seems to be that Domain Keys/IIM does the
whole thing much better.

Like we did not know that already, the point of SPF/Sender-Id is that it
will be a while yet before we have a merged spec for Domain-Keys/IIM we are
still in trial stages. It makes a lot of sense to go forward with the low
hanging fruit authentication that SPF provides.

SPF now includes the HELO check so CSV is utterly redundant, it is an
unhelpful contribution to the debate at this point. The promoters of CSV
have not been working to win friends and influence people. 'nuff said.


For DK to work we need a policy layer, that will almost certainly be linked
to the deployed SPF/Sender-ID standard.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] 
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David Woodhouse
> Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 9:35 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Cc: Douglas Otis; Frank Ellermann; [email protected]
> Subject: Re: So here it is one year later...
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, 2005-01-31 at 08:40 +0100, [email protected] wrote:
> > The forwarding problem is known and information is on spf.pobox.com 
> > (which still is the primary source for information about spf). It's 
> > not like it is 'the big secret of spf' that there is a forwarding 
> > issue. I suppose people read this site before publishing, 
> so they must 
> > know about the forwarding problem. However, people still 
> publish. I'm 
> > not going to guess at the motivations of these people, i'm not a 
> > pyschologist. Fact is that despite the forwarding issue, people do 
> > publish.
> 
> The forwarding problem isn't exactly shouted from the 
> rooftops on the SPF site, and people rarely actually think 
> things through for themselves, unfortunately. If you point 
> those _same_ people at something like 
> http://david.woodhou.se/why-not-spf.html they > often seem to 
> change their mind again and stop publishing records, in my experience.
> 
> -- 
> dwmw2
>
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