Re: SPF PASS

Terry Fielder <[email protected]> Thu, 26 May 2005 13:59:33 -0400
Newsgroups gmane.ietf.mxcomp
Message-ID <[email protected]>


John Levine wrote:
>>We could easily write EHLO guidelines for SPF record checking and
>>publishing as separate document, kind of like BCP. In fact I'll 
>>keep this in mind and bring it up on spf-discuss when things are
>>a little more calm from current spf-classic draft discussions.
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> We could, but since you can't tell whether the list of addresses in
> an SPF record is supposed to apply to the EHLO address or the MAIL FROM
> address or one of the message header addresses, what's the point?

Read on to see the point.

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> The domain names in my EHLOs is completely disjoint from the set in my
> MAIL FROM and mail headers.  How is SPF going to handle that?
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I believe you will find that the EHLO/HELO is only checked if the MAIL 
FROM fails.  I think I have heard of other implementations where:
If the EHLO fails, you check the MAIL FROM, and if that passes then it 
gets an SPF pass.

Either way, it doesn't matter if your EHLO fails (it does on many, maybe 
even MOST systems), because as long as your MAIL FROM is SPF PASS, then 
your mails SPF response on the whole is a PASS, and is not negatively 
affected.

PS  This is from memory, one of the developers are better qualified to 
answer this question, if you don't trust my answer, but the 
generalization is at least correct, AFAICT.

When it comes time to using the authorization to compare to domain 
black/white listing, then the MAIL FROM domain and the EHLO/HELO domain 
could be used as a query to the lists.  So THEN a bad reputation of 
either the domain in your MAIL FROM or your EHLO/HELO could give you a 
bad score later down the line in SA or the like.  But I don't think 
anyone is doing that, if for no other reason then because there are no 
ways of confirming the email is from the domain it claims until SPF is 
deployed.



Terry

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Terry Fielder
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Associate Director Software Development and Deployment
Great Gulf Homes / Ashton Woods Homes
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