Re: SPF and HELO, was Re: SPF PASS

"John L" <[email protected]> 26 May 2005 14:56:13 -0400
Newsgroups gmane.ietf.mxcomp
Message-ID <[email protected]>
>> Could you show me the SPF records I would use to indicate that 
>> mta.example.com is valid as an EHLO but not as a bounce address domain 
>> while example.com is a valid bounce address domain but not an EHLO.  If 
>> it'll help, assume they both have an A record of 12.34.56.78.
>
> You cannot with SPFv1 (based on your assumption).  You missed the point:  It 
> doesn't matter, primarily the HELO is only checked if the MAIL FROM fails.
>
> A pass from the HELO or MAIL FROM results in SPF PASS status.

My point, which I would have thought was obvious, is that SPF provides no 
way to say that EHLO example.com or MAIL FROM:<[email protected]> are 
invalid.  In practice, I see quite a lot of forged mail like that, and 
SPF's inability to deal with it is a significant problem.

Regards,
John Levine, [email protected], Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies",
Information Superhighwayman wanna-be, http://iecc.com/johnl, Mayor
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