Re: Fwd: Re: [5gangip] To initiate user-plane study work in 3GPP

Sri,
As I wrote to Marco Thursday afternoon III clashes with 5G IP meeting.
Please do not use that slot :)

Regards,
Behcet

On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 10:56 AM, Sri Gundavelli (sgundave) <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Thats a great idea. Lets find a slot to discuss with Charlie and
> understand the comments.
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> Any one interested in attending, send me a unicast note.
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Nov 15, 2017, at 10:52 AM, Marco Liebsch <[email protected]>
> wrote:
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> Can we quickly set up an ad-hoc site meeting here at IETF100?
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> E.g. Thursday Afternoon III or later would be possible for me.
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> Would be an opportunity to follow-up f2f and further elaborate on that.
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> marco
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> *From:* dmm [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On
> Behalf Of *Sri Gundavelli (sgundave)
> *Sent:* Mittwoch, 15. November 2017 03:42
> *To:* vojislav vucetic
> *Cc:* Charlie Perkins; [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [DMM] Fwd: Re: [5gangip] To initiate user-plane study work
> in 3GPP
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> Like I said, concern is valid. The deliverable about  that study. If it
> turns out there is no significant optimizations that operators can convince
> operators, then we will drop the work.
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> Sri
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> *From: *vojislav vucetic <[email protected]>
> *Date: *Tuesday, November 14, 2017 at 6:35 PM
> *To: *Sri Gundavelli <[email protected]>
> *Cc: *Charlie Perkins <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <
> [email protected]>
> *Subject: *Re: [DMM] Fwd: Re: [5gangip] To initiate user-plane study work
> in 3GPP
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> He put you on the spot👹
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Nov 14, 2017, at 7:13 PM, Sri Gundavelli (sgundave) <[email protected]>
> wrote:
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> Hi Charlie,
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> Fair point! As part of these efforts, we need to understand and quantify
> those optimizations. For not all work items, we need blessing from anyone
> before we initiate any new work, we do what the community believes is the
> right thing here. This work is less about building a solution, and more
> about investigation.   This is one of those items where can bring possibly
> great optimizations to the mobile data plane. We lost the signaling war
> (after CDMA2000 ended) for various reasons, less technical and more about
> legacy and other reasons, but that does not mean we will fail every time.
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> Sri
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> *From: *dmm <[email protected]> on behalf of Charlie Perkins <
> [email protected]>
> *Date: *Tuesday, November 14, 2017 at 4:43 PM
> *To: *"[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> *Subject: *[DMM] Fwd: Re: [5gangip] To initiate user-plane study work in
> 3GPP
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> Hello folks,
>
> I stumbled across this terrific diagram from email that was sent by
> Satoru-san yesterday.  I think it's an indication that current operators
> are not really asking for a simplified data plane.  Or, at least, that we
> really need to understand under what conditions they would accept an
> IETF-designed simplified data plane before embarking on a solution for
> their needs.
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> Regards,
> Charlie P.
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> PS. I hope it is O.K. to forward this email...
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> Alex,
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> Please take a look at the attached picture which one of the realities
> happened in some operator.
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> Cheers,
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> --satoru
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