Re: Call for adoption of draft-clt-dmm-tn-aware-mobility-08 as a WG document - Objections

Behcet Sarikaya <[email protected]>
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This is an excellent review.
More below.

On Tue, Jan 5, 2021 at 6:11 PM Joel M. Halpern <[email protected]> wrote:

> Looking agin at the document, I have multiple problems with adoption of
> this document.
>
> First, as just discussed, it seems to be laying out an archtiecture, but
> that architecture is not consistent with the other work going on in the
> IETF (specifically in the routing area, and known to many of the
> co-authors of this work.)
>
> Second, the document states that it is Informational, and then is
> written as if it is defining the one and only way to structure the
> needed system.
>
> Third, related to the second, this document seems to assert that there
> is a specific and correct way to use IETF technology to solve the
> problem.  Then, about three quarters of the way through it remembers
> that there are multiple alternatives for some parts.  The IETF rarely
> writes implementation specifications.  There are other SDOs that do so.
>

This reminds me what is happening in quic WG which keeps producing
implementation specs.



>   They can wrestle with the problem of defining something that can be
> utilized by multiple operators with varying constraints.  Why would we
> want to get into trying to have that fight?
>
> For the WG chairs, I am trying to figure out how this even fits the DMM
> charter.  It is a LOT more than network exposure, which is the closest I
> can see in the charter.
>
>
I had raised this charter issue long time before.
I pointed out that dmm has to recharter and even maybe make a BOF before
working on these.
They have all been ignored.

Hope that they won't this time :)

Folks, +1 on all counts.

I have to clarify that this mail is nothing personal, I know some authors,
they are my friends, the chairs are my friends.
No offense to anyone.

Happy New Year!

Behcet

> Yours, unhappily,
> Joel
>
>
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