Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-dmm-srv6-mobile-uplane-21.txt> (Segment Routing IPv6 for Mobile User Plane) to Proposed Standard

True, my concern is not new.  However, this is now the IETF last call, 
so I need to raise it to the larger community.

Yours,

Joel

On 11/2/2022 6:29 PM, Behcet Sarikaya wrote:
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 2, 2022 at 12:08 PM Joel Halpern <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>     This document appears to be technically internally consistent.
>     However,
>     it appears to redefine the 3GPP architecture.  Which seems
>     inappropriate
>     for an IETF Proposed Standard.  if another SDO started redefining
>     the IP
>     architecture we would be (and have been) understandably upset.  The
>     Traditional mode significantly modifies a defined standard
>     encapsulation
>     from 3GPP.  The Enhanced Mode goes further, and redefines the 3GPP
>     architecture for delivering services.
>
>     These may be good ideas.  if so, they should be discussed and
>     adopted by
>     the SDO which owns the architecture.  The fact that these were
>     brought
>     to 3GPP and preliminary versions of these ideas were turned down
>     emphasis the point that we should not be stepping on other
>     people's work.
>
>
>
> This is nothing new, it has been the dmm story in recent years, and 
> you know it well.
>
> Behcet
>
>     Yours,
>
>     Joel
>
>     On 11/2/2022 10:22 AM, The IESG wrote:
>     > The IESG has received a request from the Distributed Mobility
>     Management WG
>     > (dmm) to consider the following document: - 'Segment Routing
>     IPv6 for Mobile
>     > User Plane'
>     >    <draft-ietf-dmm-srv6-mobile-uplane-21.txt> as Proposed Standard
>     >
>     > The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and
>     solicits final
>     > comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the
>     > [email protected] mailing lists by 2022-11-23. Exceptionally,
>     comments may
>     > be sent to [email protected] instead. In either case, please retain
>     the beginning
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>     >
>     > Abstract
>     >
>     >
>     >     This document specifies the applicability of SRv6 (Segment
>     Routing
>     >     IPv6) to the user-plane of mobile networks.  The network
>     programming
>     >     nature of SRv6 accomplishes mobile user-plane functions in a
>     simple
>     >     manner.  The statelessness of SRv6 and its ability to
>     control both
>     >     service layer path and underlying transport can be
>     beneficial to the
>     >     mobile user-plane, providing flexibility, end-to-end network
>     slicing,
>     >     and SLA control for various applications.
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > The file can be obtained via
>     > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dmm-srv6-mobile-uplane/
>     >
>     >
>     > The following IPR Declarations may be related to this I-D:
>     >
>     > https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/3891/
>     > https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/3979/
>     > https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/3950/
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
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