Re: rechartering

Jouni Korhonen <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.ietf.nemo
Message-ID <5388BAFD.6050009__3180.61968214369$1401469707$gmane$org@gmail.com>
Agree.

5/30/2014 8:57 AM, Alper Yegin kirjoitti:
> IMO, solutions that do not rely on "anchors" are welcome.
> Even though the charter uses that term, we are not hung up on solutions that have "anchors"
> Besides, remember I made an attempt to refine the term with an additional one "deflector"… So, we do need to have some discussions around that eventually.
> But I don't think we need to have that right now in the context of the charter text.
> As long as people understand that anchor-less solutions are welcome for discussion, and we may eventually refine the term, we can move forward with the current text -- I'd say.
>
> Alper
>
>
>
> On May 30, 2014, at 12:03 AM, Jouni Korhonen wrote:
>
>> Bechet,
>>
>> 5/29/2014 11:52 PM, Behcet Sarikaya kirjoitti:
>>> Hi Jouni,
>>>
>>> I was looking at the charter text and noticed one important issue. The
>>> charter seems to be stuck with the good old anchor think. Almost all
>>> text is about anchoring, anchor selection, anchor reselection, and so
>>> on.
>>>
>>> However in the past several months, we have seen in Alper's events,
>>> presentations which seem to have no anchor.
>>>
>>> I don't see any active draft that talks about the anchors.
>>>
>>> In view of this, my question is how are we going to go ahead with this
>>> charter and meet the deadlines?
>>
>> I (myself) see still value dragging along some anchoring stuff just to allow smoother migration from current deployed models toward less centralized architectures.
>>
>> But you are right that we should not get stuck on those.. and that has not been the intent either.
>>
>>> Or else, are we better off with a charter text which is much less
>>> dependent on the anchors, something  which could make it possible to
>>> progress one of those proposals??
>>
>> You are welcome to propose concrete text & change snippets to the current charter text.
>>
>> - Jouni
>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Behcet
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 3:50 AM, Jouni Korhonen <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Now that the gap analysis I-D is almost on the stage of leaving the WG and
>>>> the requirements I-D has almost completed IESG, it would be time to return
>>>> to the rechartering topic.
>>>>
>>>> First, the latest revision can be found at:
>>>> https://github.com/jounikor/dmm-re-charter
>>>>
>>>> Second, have a look at it. There are few changes proposed by Alper eons ago
>>>> and corrected milestones pointed by Behcet.
>>>>
>>>> Third, let us get this finally done..
>>>>
>>>> - Jouni
>>>>
>>>> 4/22/2014 3:55 PM, Jouni Korhonen kirjoitti:
>>>>
>>>>> Folks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry for letting this topic to rot in a dark for the couple of last
>>>>> weeks. I'll crank out a revision shortly..
>>>>>
>>>>> - Jouni & Dapeng
>>>>
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