Re: draft charter text updates in github..

Fred,

It is true IPv4 is there (and will be for a long time). Although the 
charter does emphasize IPv6 as the base solution it does not prohibit 
adding IPv4 support. It is just we can accept an IPv6-only solution as a 
valid & complete solution from DMM point of view.

- Jouni

6/16/2014 7:53 PM, Templin, Fred L kirjoitti:
> Hi Jouni,
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jouni Korhonen [mailto:[email protected]]
>> Sent: Monday, June 16, 2014 9:41 AM
>> To: Templin, Fred L; [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [DMM] draft charter text updates in github..
>>
>> Fred,
>>
>> 6/16/2014 5:59 PM, Templin, Fred L kirjoitti:
>>> Hi Jouni,
>>>
>>> What about operation in IPv4-only access networks? There may be
>>> many enterprise networks that offer IPv4-only in their access
>>> networks for the near future, but with IPv6 enabled internally.
>>> For them, we should be able to tunnel IPv6 inside IPv4 if the
>>> mechanism can support it.
>>
>> My personal view is still that IPv4-only access is even more past than
>> "anchoring" ;-)
>
> OK, but I am just telling what I see and it is that IPv4-only
> access in enterprise networks is still a reality today.
>
> Thanks - Fred
> [email protected]
>
>> Anyway, if there is (rough) consensus in the WG for the below new text,
>> so be it.
>>
>> - Jouni
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Here is my suggested re-word:
>>>
>>> OLD:
>>> DMM solutions are primarily targeted at IPv6 deployments and
>>> should not be required to support IPv4, specifically in situations
>>> where private IPv4 addresses and/or NATs are used. IPv6 is
>>> assumed to be present in both the mobile host/router and the
>>> access networks.
>>>
>>> NEW:
>>> DMM solutions are primarily targeted at IPv6 mobile hosts/routers
>>> and should not be required to support IPv4-only mobiles. Access
>>> networks may be IPv6-enabled or IPv4-only, but with IPv6 enabled
>>> in the network core.
>>>
>>> Thanks - Fred
>>> [email protected]
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: dmm [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jouni Korhonen
>>>> Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2014 4:20 AM
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: Re: [DMM] draft charter text updates in github..
>>>>
>>>> Folks,
>>>>
>>>> Another set of tweaks in github (v12):
>>>>     o reminders of Charlie's comments
>>>>     o Hidetoshi's comments
>>>>     o Georgios' comments
>>>>
>>>> Also milestones got postponed. There is still a bit of my own editing in
>>>> the text so not everything got moved over letter by letter.
>>>>
>>>> - Jouni
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 6/13/2014 2:41 PM, Jouni Korhonen kirjoitti:
>>>>> Folks,
>>>>>
>>>>> New update (v9) available. I added most of the editorials from Charlie
>>>>> (thanks) and the red texts from Alper.
>>>>>
>>>>> The lot debated anchoring term (and milestone) is still there. The
>>>>> milestone does not mention anymore about preserving the mobility
>>>>> sessions and stuff. That would be up to the solution to define.
>>>>>
>>>>> - Jouni
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 6/6/2014 2:47 PM, Jouni Korhonen kirjoitti:
>>>>>> Folks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Minor changes..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://github.com/jounikor/dmm-re-charter/blob/master/recharter_draft.txt
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> IMHO..the charter as it is today, would allow pretty much any solution
>>>>>> from legacy anchoring to herd of pigeons carrying IP.. ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have put in editorial changes of my own and clear text proposals
>>>>>> received from others.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Jouni
>>>>
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