Re: draft-yegin-ip-mobility-orchestrator-00.txt

Alper Yegin <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.ietf.nemo
Message-ID <[email protected]>
>> 
>> Just like for any of our base IETF protocols, we cannot assume multiple radios exist on a given node.
>> So, this solution works even for single-radio nodes.
> 
> Ok.. I get confused by Figure 1 saying the sub-IP mobility is PMIPv6. AFAIR what is in figure is somewhat stretching what PMIPv6 does now. That is also what I meant about assumptions that are not said.
> 

Stretching in what sense?
s-GW is acting as LMA, and t-GW is acting as MAG in that case (which we can elaborate in the next rev).



>>> Section 4.1. says:
>>> 
>>>   data-path optimization.  On the other hand, above-IP solutions
>>>   provide data-path optimization but fail to provide seamless
>>>   handovers.  The ideal solution would be based on coordianted
>>> 
>>> I do not agree this fully. "Above-IP solution" allow seamless handovers in cases where you can have multiple radios on simultaneously.
>>> 
>> 
>> That's right. But we are providing a solution for the general case where there's only one connected radio.
>> We can add "multi-radio" considerations (as a special case) in the next version of the draft.
>> 
>>> In Figure 2. and the related text:
>>> 
>>> What is unclear to me is s-GW would keep the IP1 when the MN attaches to t-GW. What is the background assumption here? Is MN attached to both GWs simultaneously?
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The MN has a single radio connection. But, it can maintain its previous IP address with the help of a tunnel between the s-GW and the MN or t-GW.
>> This is what we call "access network anchoring".
> 
> I might be a good idea to clarify that a handover from s-GW to t-GW specifically with a single radio does not cause s-GW to think the MN is not under its control anymore.. even if the s-GW notices that the MN has lost the radio connectivity. Same also on the MN side.. even if the radio connectivity to the s-GW was lost, it does not imply discarding the IP from the interface..
> 

Yes, we can elaborate on that.

Thanks.

Alper





> - Jouni
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>> Alper
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>>> - Jouni
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>>> 7/4/2014 10:10 AM, Alper Yegin kirjoitti:
>>>> Hello DMMers,
>>>> 
>>>> We have a new I-D for your reading and discussion.
>>>> 
>>>>  Title           : IP Mobility Orchestrator
>>>>  Authors     : Alper Yegin
>>>>                       Jungshin Park
>>>>                       Kisuk Kweon
>>>>                       Jinsung Lee
>>>> Filename   : draft-yegin-ip-mobility-orchestrator-00.txt
>>>> Pages         : 13
>>>> Date            : 2014-07-03
>>>> 
>>>> Abstract:
>>>>   Host stacks can support mobility at multiple layers.  Mobility
>>>>   protocols operating at different layers constitute alternate
>>>>   solutions with various pros and cons, and they can also have adverse
>>>>   affects on each other when used simultaneously.  Optimal results in
>>>>   terms of seamless handover and data-path optimization can be achieved
>>>>   when execution of these protocols are coordinated.
>>>> 
>>>> We'll also be submitting an IPR statement to IETF.
>>>> 
>>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-yegin-ip-mobility-orchestrator/
>>>> 
>>>> Please review this I-D and share your comments.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> 
>>>> Alper
>>>> 
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