Re: IETF#90 DMM agenda update

So, what is your point ? Can we elevate the discussion to some decent
levels and focus on technicals ?

What we are discussing is an architectural approach that addresses DMM
Requirements; This is what we discussed with number of people and have
agreements. Now we are discussing with a larger group.

Like any other other proposal, this does not have a WG status and is only
a proposal. Nothing in the process requires I-D for discussion. I've done
many such presentations prior to publishing -00 version.



Sri









On 7/23/14 6:40 AM, "Behcet Sarikaya" <[email protected]> wrote:

>I am not against any work which is based on an existing draft. I spoke
>against having a long presentation and there is no draft.
>
>Another point here is, yesterday I discussed with Marco on this. Any
>architecture and so called deployment proposal has a sense of solution
>in it. I don't buy the argument that the architecture is generic and
>that the deployment is generic.
>At this point in time there is no such thing. Such proposals represent
>the authors solution approach.They are reading other solution
>proposals and they don't like some aspects in those solution drafts
>and they want to present some alternative approaches.
>
>So, as I said before, Marco, Sri, Pierrick, if there are any others,
>are free to write drafts making it clear that in the draft they are
>talking about their own solution. There is nothing wrong with it.
>
>I hope this makes my point clear.
>
>Regards,
>
>Behcet
>
>On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 4:36 AM,  <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Thanks Pierrick for the pointer!
>> And FWIW also Marcos draft-liebsch-dmm-framework-03 addresses
>>deployment and architecture aspects for evaluating various approaches
>> BR
>> Dirk
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: dmm [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
>>[email protected]
>> Sent: Mittwoch, 23. Juli 2014 10:13
>> To: [email protected]; Sri Gundavelli (sgundave)
>> Cc: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [DMM] IETF#90 DMM agenda update
>>
>>
>>
>>>-----Message d'origine-----
>>>De : dmm [mailto:[email protected]] De la part de Behcet Sarikaya
>>>Envoyé : mardi 22 juillet 2014 19:04 À : Sri Gundavelli (sgundave) Cc :
>>>[email protected] Objet : Re: [DMM] IETF#90 DMM agenda update
>>>
>>>On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 12:00 PM, Sri Gundavelli (sgundave)
>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> I think you are mixing the topics here.
>>>
>>>I am not sure who?
>>>How can you talk about deployment without having a solution?
>>>Deployment where?
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Any case, I don't have plans to write one ..
>>>
>>>I know that and that's why I kept asking, just in case you might change
>>>your mind.
>>>
>>>Maybe you can write a draft evaluating existing proposals from your
>>>"architecture" and your "deployment" point of view.
>>>
>>
>> Worth to be considered IMHO: draft-liu-dmm-deployment-scenario
>>
>>>Behcet
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sri
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 7/22/14 9:56 AM, "Behcet Sarikaya" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>You are talking about Gateway Initiated DS-Lite (RFC 6674).
>>>>>
>>>>>That is a solution based on DS-Lite, i.e. a variation of DS-Lite or
>>>>>RFC 6333.
>>>>>
>>>>>Again, my plea to you, please come up with your draft and let WG see
>>>>>what you propose.
>>>>>
>>>>>That is the right way to go.
>>>>>
>>>>>Behcet
>>>>
>>>
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