Re: Maintenance of Mobile IPv6

Alexandru Petrescu <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.ietf.nemo
Message-ID <54511DE2.3040008__42325.8315692239$1414602262$gmane$org@gmail.com>
Le 29/10/2014 17:34, Jouni a écrit :
>
> On Oct 29, 2014, at 5:15 PM, Alexandru Petrescu wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> There are a few things that I think are needed for the maintenance of protocol Mobile IPv6; most important appear first:
>>
>> - help with automated portal authentication in WLAN.  Hopping on and
>>   off from a WiFi hotspot to another, even without moving physically,
>>   is often obstructed by web portal authentication requiring user
>>   to type to fill forms; this is not only inconvenient, but in some
>>   cases it is impossible, like with vehicular networks where the
>>   driver is forbidden by law to type while behind the wheel.
>>
>> - bugs in an otherwise reliable Mobile IPv6 implementation of
>>   a particular equipment manufacturer (HA never deletes a tunnel,
>>   lifetime: remaining never): should the bugs be corrected or shoudl
>>   the spec modified to reflect what the implementation actually
>>   does?  Should protocol workarounds be designed to deal with this
>>   problem?
>>
>> - future of the maintenance of the linux open source Mobile IPv6
>>   implementation: just for my clarification - is it still ok?  Is there
>>   some project behind it?  Or is it dying?  Currently the email list
>>   seems silent, and the latest software releases date back to more than
>>   one year.
>>
>> - elimination, or reducing the effect, of the necessity of the 'focal
>>   point' Home Agent: route optimization for the masses and for moving
>>   networks as deployed in vehicles.
>>
>> - Mobile IPv6 and IPv6 NAT Traversal;
>>
>> - IPv6 NAT in a moving network;
>>
>> - bypassing Mobile IPv6 implementation (and use IPv6 NATting) in cases
>>   of particular applications, based on destination IPv6 address and
>>   IPv6-only-when-reversed FQDN name.
>>
>> - the use of ULAs combined with Global addresses, with Mobile IPv6
>>   (e.g. ULA HoA but GUA CoA, or reverse).
>>
>> What do you think?
>
> Maintenance or new features?

I hear you.

If you want, the only purest maintenance aspect is this:
 >> - bugs in an otherwise reliable Mobile IPv6 implementation of
 >>   a particular equipment manufacturer (HA never deletes a tunnel,
 >>   lifetime: remaining never): should the bugs be corrected or shoudl
 >>   the spec modified to reflect what the implementation actually
 >>   does?  Should protocol workarounds be designed to deal with this
 >>   problem?

This is of utmost importance in some deployments.  We struggled with it 
extensively only to conclude that Mobile IPv6 is no longer important.

Now, I do not know whether one can sense the importance of these little 
words above, which circulated mostly in private.

> The best you can do is to write an I-D of your idea/topic/fix/enhancement
> and the WG and chairs determine whether the I-D is about a new feature or
> maintenance.

Ok, thank you for the invitation, I am happy.

Let me start by drawing attention to these items on this email list, first.

So, once again, what do you think about these topics of maintenance of 
Mobile IPv6?

Alex

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- help with automated portal authentication in WLAN.  Hopping on and
   off from a WiFi hotspot to another, even without moving physically,
   is often obstructed by web portal authentication requiring user
   to type to fill forms; this is not only inconvenient, but in some
   cases it is impossible, like with vehicular networks where the
   driver is forbidden by law to type while behind the wheel.

- bugs in an otherwise reliable Mobile IPv6 implementation of
   a particular equipment manufacturer (HA never deletes a tunnel,
   lifetime: remaining never): should the bugs be corrected or shoudl
   the spec modified to reflect what the implementation actually
   does?  Should protocol workarounds be designed to deal with this
   problem?

- future of the maintenance of the linux open source Mobile IPv6
   implementation: just for my clarification - is it still ok?  Is there
   some project behind it?  Or is it dying?  Currently the email list
   seems silent, and the latest software releases date back to more than
   one year.

- elimination, or reducing the effect, of the necessity of the 'focal
   point' Home Agent: route optimization for the masses and for moving
   networks as deployed in vehicles.

- Mobile IPv6 and IPv6 NAT Traversal;

- IPv6 NAT in a moving network;

- bypassing Mobile IPv6 implementation (and use IPv6 NATting) in cases
   of particular applications, based on destination IPv6 address and
   IPv6-only-when-reversed FQDN name.

- the use of ULAs combined with Global addresses, with Mobile IPv6
   (e.g. ULA HoA but GUA CoA, or reverse).
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