Re: Mobility Exposure and Selection WT call

Alex,

3/26/2015, 11:00 AM, Alexandru Petrescu kirjoitti:

[snip]

>> I thought by "fixed" you meant it stays the same wherever the Host goes
>> (something like the Home Address).
>
> Alper - I think a LL address can also be qualified as 'fixed' - it never
> changes.

Does LL here mean link-local or link-layer? If it is the former one, 
then the above assertion is not correct.

- Jouni

>
> I think it's hard to disagree with that, no?
>
> Alex
>
>>
>> So, I guess, I should have referred to the "nomadic" address to mean the
>> one that is constant, wherever the Host goes.
>>
>> As such, my suggestion is that a "nomadic" address can never be an
>> RFC7217 address.
>>
>> In practice that would mean that if you configure an address to be
>> "nomadic" you must also tell the kernel to not run RFC7217 on it.
>>
>> But ok, one might think that these two aspects ("nomadic" and RFC7217)
>> are orthogonal at this point in time.
>>
>> Alex
>>
>>>
>>> I don't know if it makes sense to request a fixed and random-based IP
>>> address. But if someone does it, it works.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Alper
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>> - configured by SLAAC, by DHCPv6, by PPP, or registered (RFC
>>>>>> 6775).
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Orthogonal.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> E.g. a nomadic address could never be a link-local address.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> #2. Describe how IP address type information is conveyed from
>>>>>>> network to MN.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If one designs a protocol to convey address type information from
>>>>>> the network to the end node, then one could also add the other
>>>>>> types mentioned above.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> SLAAC could never 'convey' the address type to the end-node,
>>>>>> because SLAAC is an operation happening with as heavy weight from
>>>>>> the Server (router) as from the Client (Host): the Router decides
>>>>>> the prefix but the Client decides the Interface ID.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Still, the network can convey the type of IP address to the host.
>>>>> Also, one can imagine augmenting Router Solicitation to let the host
>>>>> convey its requested type.
>>>>
>>>> I agree.
>>>>
>>>> Alex
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> Address Registration Option of 6lo and BTLE would have the Host
>>>>>> conveying this information to the Router (and not vice-versa).
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> OK.
>>>>>
>>>>> Alper
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yours,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alex
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> WT agreed to use draft-yegin-dmm-ondemand-mobility as the
>>>>>>> baseline for item#1 (the API). A revision of the draft will also
>>>>>>> include a new section to cover backward compatibility (Danny will
>>>>>>> provide the draft text). Comments on the draft are welcome.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The next call will be about items #2/#3 (IP address
>>>>>>> configuration enhancements associated with the API). We intend to
>>>>>>> schedule that one in about 2 weeks.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Alper
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Feb 9, 2015, at 9:59 AM, Alper Yegin wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Folks,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> See below for the Webex details. Remember, the call is on Tue,
>>>>>>>> Feb 10, at 4pm CET. And don't forget to read the documents in
>>>>>>>> the reading list prior to the call.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Attendees _shall read _the following material before the call
>>>>>>>>> so that we can directly jump to the discussions:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 1.
>>>>>>>>> http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/91/slides/slides-91-dmm-4.pdf
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>> 2. http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/90/slides/slides-90-dmm-6.pdf
>>>>>>>>> 3.
>>>>>>>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-yegin-dmm-ondemand-mobility/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>> 4. http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/88/slides/slides-88-dmm-8.pdf
>>>>>>>>> 5. http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-liu-dmm-mobility-api-02
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Alper
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>> On Jan 27, 2015, at 11:12 AM, Alper Yegin wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Poll is closed, and majority selected the following date for
>>>>>>>>> the call:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Feb 10, 4pm CET. 1,5hr call.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Please mark your calendars.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In this call, we'll aim making progress on the I-D for item#1
>>>>>>>>> (an API for source address selection).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Attendees _shall read _the following material before the call
>>>>>>>>> so that we can directly jump to the discussions:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 1.
>>>>>>>>> http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/91/slides/slides-91-dmm-4.pdf
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>> 2. http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/90/slides/slides-90-dmm-6.pdf
>>>>>>>>> 3.
>>>>>>>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-yegin-dmm-ondemand-mobility/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>> 4. http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/88/slides/slides-88-dmm-8.pdf
>>>>>>>>> 5. http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-liu-dmm-mobility-api-02
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Alper
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Jan 23, 2015, at 3:28 PM, Alper Yegin wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Folks,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Please mark your availability on the following doodle for
>>>>>>>>>> our next DMM WG Mobility Exposure and Selection WT call:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://doodle.com/7xgcr8x6cgxnbzur
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Register your availability no later than the end of Monday
>>>>>>>>>> (Jan 26).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Alper
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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