Re: Re: IPv6 only devices in home network

Brian E Carpenter <[email protected]> Mon, 21 Oct 2002 23:25:30 +0200
Newsgroups gmane.ietf.ngtrans
Organization IBM
Message-ID <[email protected]>
If I'd mentioned any specific ISPs I would indeed not have used
such words. But my point is not hyperbolic I think: if a customer
can't get enough addresses for their purpose, then there is a de facto
shortage of addresses. (I didn't say that one shouldn't have to pay
for resources. Now that would have been hyperbolic.)

  Brian

Randy Bush wrote:
> 
> >>> I can get only one IPv4 address at home. And it is even not garanteed
> >>> that it won't change. That's in Europe.
> >> that is not due to a shortage of v4 ip space.
> > Well, as far as the user is concerned, the effect is the same,
> > which is what I meant originally. ISPs that act in restraint of
> > trade are indeed making the shortage worse than it needs to be.
> 
> "restraint of trade" seems to be a legal term, which means you could
> be indulging in libel unless you can substantiate that indeed some
> law is being broken.
> 
> and i was not aware that consumer end sites indulged in trade.
> 
> perhaps the hyperbole surrounding this passed the stage of utility
> and relevance some years ago.
> 
> personally, i think the vicious shipmakers that won't let me have
> a 42' J-Boat are even more vicious and anti-consumer.  oh, you mean
> i should *pay* for it?  what a concept.
> 
> randy