Re: Re: IPv6 only devices in home network

"Michael Cole"<[email protected]> Tue, 12 Nov 2002 21:05:51 -0800
Newsgroups gmane.ietf.ngtrans
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Actually, There are 4 reasons why we have to pay more for addresses:

1. The original allocation scheme allocated 16 million plus addresses to each
of the original IPv4 participants at essentially zero cost. In the early days,
charging 10 cents or even 1 cent per month per address would have been a
hardship. That is not true today.

2. Routing had to be simple because early routers were built using the PDP-11.
That is no longer an issue.

3. In a lot of cases it takes both a carrot AND a stick to get these people to
realize that they can make money hand over fist leasing out their unused
addresses. So far, AT&T is one of the few companies that has realized this.

4. If IANA charged a nominal price such as 10 cents per address per month,
then those people who do not need 16 million addresses could make $!#%loads of
money by leasing out 500,000 of them at $5 per month each. Those companies
that really do need a /8 block can easily pay $1.6 million per month. Even if
the IANA price were 2 cents per month each we would still have much more
equitable distribution.

However, we will still need IPv6; when we need it will depend a lot on whether
the big guys will lease out their unused addresses.

Mike Cole, [email protected] 

On Tue, 5 Nov 2002 15:51:56 +0000 Tim Chown <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 07:32:38AM -0800, Randy
> Bush wrote:
> > > The reason why we have shortages of Ipv4
> addresses
> > 
> > do we have a shortage of v4 ip addresses?
> 
> Perhaps "shortages of globally routable IPv4
> addresses available to end
> users in a number of environments", like public
> WLANs, home networks,
> networks in hotels, or in public events (like
> IST2002 where I am now),
> etc etc.
> 
> The choice of the operator to ask for and use
> global addresses is not
> something the end user can control :(   I can
> vote with my wallet for
> my home network (though it's frustrating that
> money is required to get more
> IPv4 addresses, for whatever reason), but not
> so usually when attached to 
> a public or other network.
> 
> Tim
>