RE: Two IPv6 Hosts Communicating over IPv4 network

"Chen Zhigao" <[email protected]> Tue, 10 Dec 2002 20:42:47 +0800
Newsgroups gmane.ietf.ngtrans
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Dear Soo Guan,

Thanks for your useful info. Our network is also behind a NAT server.
Appreciate it if you could tell me whether there is available Teredo
implementation or how difficult it is to develop the Teredo. What else need
be taken into consideration? Any comment is welcome.

Thanks and regards,
Zhigao
  -----Original Message-----
  From: Eng Soo Guan [mailto:[email protected]]
  Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 10:44 AM
  To: [email protected]; [email protected]
  Subject: Re: (ngtrans) Two IPv6 Hosts Communicating over IPv4 network


  Dear Zhigao,

  How are your 2 hosts connected to the commerical network? If there is a
NAT/firewall between, you may need a UDP-tunneling or Teredo solution (we
implemented a simplified Teredo solution here to connect our 2 hosts for
GPRS connection). Else, 6to4 is your best bet.

  There are many 6to4 implementations around
(http://www.ipv6forum.com/navbar/links/v6apps.htm). Linux is the easiest to
use for me (http://www.bieringer.de/linux/IPv6/IPv6-HOWTO/IPv6-HOWTO.html),
although there is Windows2000 and Solaris implementation too.

  You do not need to use 6bone.

  Changing IPv6 <-> IPv4 is a lot of work and not easy.

  Warmest regards.

  SG
  Eng Soo Guan
  R&D Engineer (Software)
  Institute for Communications Research
  (formerly Centre for Wireless Communications)
  http://www.icr.a-star.edu.sg
  Tel:+65 68709342

  >>> "Chen Zhigao" <[email protected]> 12/09/02 09:43PM >>>
  Dear all,

  I would like to have two hosts, which run IPv6 application on Linux,
  communicate each other across a commercial network. But there is no IPv6
  support in the commercial network.

  I guess IPv6/ICMPv6 packets must be converted to IPv4/ICMPv4 packets in
host
  b4 they enter the IPv4 network. Likewise, IPv4/ICMPv4 shall be converted
  back to IPv6/ICMPv6 once they reach the destination IPv6 host. I have a
few
  questions as follows.

  1) Has such work been implemented in Linux or other OS?
  2) If no, which RFC or draft addressing this issue?
  3) Does my scenario need to touch 6Bone, since only two IPv6 hosts are
  involved?
  4) Anything else need to be done apart from conversion of IP/ICMP?

  Any suggestion and comment are highly appreciated.

  Best regards,
  Zhigao



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<DIV><SPAN class=3D124283612-10122002>Dear Soo Guan,</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D124283612-10122002>Thanks for your useful info. Our =
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D124283612-10122002>Thanks and regards,</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D124283612-10122002>Zhigao</SPAN></DIV>
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  Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Eng Soo Guan=20
  [mailto:[email protected]]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, December 10, =
2002=20
  10:44 AM<BR><B>To:</B> [email protected];=20
  [email protected]<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: (ngtrans) Two IPv6 =
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  Communicating over IPv4 network<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>Dear Zhigao,</DIV>
  <DIV><BR>How are your 2 hosts connected to the commerical network? If =
there=20
  is&nbsp;a NAT/firewall between, you may need a UDP-tunneling or Teredo =

  solution (we implemented a simplified Teredo solution here to connect =
our 2=20
  hosts for GPRS connection). Else, 6to4 is your best bet.</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>There are many 6to4 implementations around <A=20
  =
href=3D"http://www.ipv6forum.com/navbar/links/v6apps.htm">(http://www.ipv=
6forum.com/navbar/links/v6apps.htm</A>).=20
  Linux is the easiest to use for me (<A=20
  =
href=3D"http://www.bieringer.de/linux/IPv6/IPv6-HOWTO/IPv6-HOWTO.html">ht=
tp://www.bieringer.de/linux/IPv6/IPv6-HOWTO/IPv6-HOWTO.html</A>),=20
  although there is Windows2000 and Solaris implementation too. </DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>You do not need to use 6bone.</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Changing IPv6 &lt;-&gt; IPv4 is a lot of work and not easy.</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Warmest regards.</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>SG<BR>Eng Soo Guan<BR>R&amp;D Engineer (Software)<BR>Institute =
for=20
  Communications Research<BR>(formerly Centre for Wireless =
Communications)<BR><A=20
  =
href=3D"http://www.icr.a-star.edu.sg">http://www.icr.a-star.edu.sg</A><BR=
>Tel:+65=20
  68709342</DIV>
  <DIV><BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; "Chen Zhigao" &lt;[email protected]&gt; 12/09/02 =
09:43PM=20
  &gt;&gt;&gt; <BR>Dear all, <BR><BR>I would like to have two hosts, =
which run=20
  IPv6 application on Linux, <BR>communicate each other across a =
commercial=20
  network. But there is no IPv6 <BR>support in the commercial network. =
<BR><BR>I=20
  guess IPv6/ICMPv6 packets must be converted to IPv4/ICMPv4 packets in =
host=20
  <BR>b4 they enter the IPv4 network. Likewise, IPv4/ICMPv4 shall be =
converted=20
  <BR>back to IPv6/ICMPv6 once they reach the destination IPv6 host. I =
have a=20
  few <BR>questions as follows. <BR><BR>1) Has such work been =
implemented in=20
  Linux or other OS? <BR>2) If no, which RFC or draft addressing this =
issue?=20
  <BR>3) Does my scenario need to touch 6Bone, since only two IPv6 hosts =
are=20
  <BR>involved? <BR>4) Anything else need to be done apart from =
conversion of=20
  IP/ICMP? <BR><BR>Any suggestion and comment are highly appreciated.=20
  <BR><BR>Best regards, <BR>Zhigao =
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