Re: NATFW issue: state 'transit' timer definition

Hannes Tschofenig <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.ietf.nsis
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Setting the default value to 30 seconds sounds fine to me.

Ciao
Hannes

Martin Stiemerling wrote:
> [writing with chair's hat off, i.e., as NATFW NSLP author only!]
>
> Hi,
>
> I do assume that everybody is fine with the proposed change.
>
> If not, please speak up now!
>
> Thanks, 
>
>   Martin (as NATFW NSLP author)
>
>
> Am 24.01.2008 11:22 Uhr schrieb "Martin Stiemerling" unter
> <[email protected]>:
>
>   
>> [writing with chair's hat off, i.e., as NATFW NSLP author only!]
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I finally found time to get back to the NATFW NSLP and your WGLC comments.
>> Thanks to all who did a review and sent in their comments!
>>
>> I also have done a complete review of draft-ietf-nsis-nslp-natfw-16.txt and
>> found some issues to be discussed. There will be separate e-mails for each
>> issue I've found. 
>>
>> Here we go:
>>
>> In Section 3.2.8.  NATFW NSLP Signaling Sessions the different conceptual
>> states of the a NATFW NSLP signaling session are defined. I see all states are
>> fine except the last one which is 'transit':
>>
>> Transit: The node has received an asynchronous message, i.e., a
>> NOTIFY, and can delete the NATFW NSLP signaling session if needed.
>> When a node has received a NOTIFY message (for instance,
>> indicating a route change) it marks it as 'Transit' and deletes
>> this NATFW NSLP signaling session if it is unused for some time
>> specific to the local node.  This idle time does not need to be
>> fixed, since it can depend on the node local maintenance cycle,
>> i.e., the NATFW NSLP signaling session could be deleted if the
>> node runs it garbage collection cycle.
>>
>> The issue is see, is the undefined timer value in this state. It simply says
>> "...for some time..." which can result in implementations removing state
>> immediately (time = 0), wait for seconds or minutes, or do never remove the
>> state (would be a bug indeed). 
>>
>> I personally would prefer to either give a fixed value or to give a formula to
>> calculate this time in a standardised way. 
>>
>> My proposal: Set this timer to 30 seconds fixed, as if there is no updating
>> CREATE or EXTERNAL message within 30 seconds to a 'transit' state there won't
>> be anything beyond this anymore.
>>
>>   Martin
>>
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