Re: Status of the WG (January 2009)

"Georgios Karagiannis" <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.ietf.nsis
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Hi Magnus

But which actions could the NSIS WG take in order to help
some of the IESG members to abandon their abstain positions?

Best regards,
Georgios



> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
> Behalf Of Magnus Westerlund
> Sent: woensdag 28 januari 2009 11:53
> To: [email protected]
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [NSIS] Status of the WG (January 2009)
> 
> Gerald Ash skrev:
> > Magnus,
> >  
> >>> It looks like Magnus has a backlog of documents to 
> review, some have 
> >>> been in his queue for months.  It would be good to get these 
> >>> documents reviewed so they can move forward to the IESG.
> >> Most of NSIS documents hasn't really been touched by me yet. The 
> >> reason is that I really like to see GIST approved before 
> processing 
> >> the other documents. If we can't get GIST approved the rest of the 
> >> documents has little value. Therefore I have been sitting on them.
> >>
> >> I hope we can get an updated version of GIST soon so that 
> we really 
> >> can go forward. I hope the update I am waiting for will be 
> sufficient 
> >> to get this approved. However, with this document I will 
> not promise anything.
> >  
> > I fail to see the logic in waiting for GIST to be approved before 
> > progressing other NSIS documents.  IMO we should make the 
> assumption 
> > that GIST will be approved after DISCUSS's are addressed to 
> the IESG's 
> > satisfaction.  Waiting for GIST completion to progress other NSIS 
> > documents just further delays these documents from getting into the 
> > IESG queue and prolongs the NSIS WG from completing its work (which 
> > has gone on too many years now).  The NSIS authors/editors 
> are doing 
> > their part in progressing their documents.  I urge you to 
> do your part 
> > in meeting the WG milestones (some of which are almost a 
> year overdue).
> >  
> 
> Gerald,
> 
> after having participated in over 2 years of discussion 
> around GIST I think it will be published without any more 
> significant changes. But until I have seen the others in IESG 
> abandon their Abstain positions  I am not certain of it. The 
> fact that these changes does affect the NSLP documents have 
> made me put of this review until I have seen clear progress of GIST.
> 
> I fully agree that all NSIS work has gone on too long. But me 
> spending too much time reviewing the documents that may need 
> to change isn't productive. I will continue with my AD 
> reviews of the NSIS documents when I cleared out the others 
> that I know can make progress.
> 
> Best Regards
> 
> Magnus Westerlund
> 
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