Re: Status of the WG (January 2009)

Magnus Westerlund <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.ietf.nsis
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Hi Roland,

I hope we don't need to have much discussion about this due to that we
will get the document approved anyway.

Cheers

Magnus

Roland Bless skrev:
> Hi Magnus,
> 
> Magnus Westerlund wrote:
>> Actually I don't understand Chris and Lisa's abstain position as I think
>> the document is no longer than many other base specifications nor that
>> the quality is lacking. But they haven't been swayed by any discussion
>> either.
> 
> I don't understand Lisa's comment:
> "I do not feel it has the quality we expect on the standards track."
> 
> Could she back up this a little bit further? This is a rather generic
> but strong statement. One could turn any specific criticism
> probably even into a constructive one, but this is a little coarse.
> 
> What about the IETF credo "running code"?
> The doc is fine enough to get more than a hands full of interoperable
> implementations (which is required not until going to draft standard
> BTW). In the past there were also comments that it's too complex to
> implement, but the available implementations should be proof enough
> that this really isn't the case.
> IMHO the GIST spec is well written, understandable and has a consistent
> protocol definition, which isn't weird or flawed. Any path-coupled
> signaling protocol will have to do very similar things and currently
> I don't see a better way how to do it. Furthermore, all NAT stuff
> makes things worse, which wasn't even considered for RSVP.
> We are now in the 8th year, guys. Let's get this thing off the table...
> 
> Regards,
>  Roland
> 


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Magnus Westerlund

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