Re: Getting started on NSIS extensibilty draft

"Hannes Tschofenig" <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.ietf.nsis
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Hi Elwyn, 

Thanks for the draft update. 

The changes look good to me. Only a minor comment:

7. Security Features


   Basic security functions are provided at the GIST layer, e.g.,
   protection against some blind or denial-of-service attacks.

These security features are available with the the path-coupled MRM in the
GIST specification. 
Other MRMs might provide different security features. 

   Conceptually it is difficult to protect against on-path attacker and
   man-in-the-middle attacks, because a basic functionality of GIST is
   to discover yet unknown signaling peers.

This is also only true for the path-coupled MRM. 

   While GIST is handling authentication of peer nodes, more fine

... and basic authorization 

   grained authentication may be required in the NSLP protocols.
          
s/authentication/authorization

  There
   is currently an ongoing work to specify common authorization
   mechanisms to be used in NSLP protocols [I-D.manner-nsis-nslp-auth],
   thus allowing, e.g., per-user and per-service authorization.

Ciao
Hannes
 

>-----Original Message-----
>From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
>Behalf Of Elwyn Davies
>Sent: 04 March, 2009 02:55
>To: Martin Stiemerling
>Cc: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: [NSIS] Getting started on NSIS extensibilty draft
>
>I am working on this and should have a new version out tomorrow.
>
>It appears to me that interception classes could benefit from 
>an IANA registry since they need to be common across multiple 
>imstantiations, although it is not strictly necessary as they 
>never appear on the wire and are only used to communicate 
>acros the API to GIST locally in each router.  I guess we can 
>do without but it might be good to ad a sentence to GIST to 
>the effect that a registry is not needed.
>
>/Elwym
>
>Martin Stiemerling wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> We need especially fulfil the dependency of the GIST draft 
>mentioned in Section 5.3.2.5.  Q-Mode Interception 
>Extensibility of GIST. 
>>
>> The text there says:
>> Guidelines on defining  interception classes are given in [13].
>>
>> Where [13] is the extensibility document.
>>
>>    Martin
>>
>> [email protected]
>>
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>>   
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] 
>On Behalf 
>>> Of Jukka MJ Manner
>>> Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 1:02 PM
>>> To: NSIS Working Group
>>> Subject: Re: [NSIS] Getting started on NSIS extensibilty draft
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> We would really need feedback to this draft to finalize it. I would 
>>> like to issue a WGLC very soon, thus, one round of comments 
>would be 
>>> good to have before that.
>>>
>>> Alternatively, we can also issue a WGLC now, and discuss 
>the comments 
>>> in SF. Still, I'd rather see one round of comments before a WGLC.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Jukka
>>>
>>> On Wed, 4 Feb 2009, Elwyn Davies wrote:
>>>
>>>     
>>>> Hi, Magnus.
>>>>
>>>> At the last IETF you offered to provide me some guidance 
>on the way 
>>>> forward with this document.
>>>>
>>>> Since as I understand it, the IESG wants to see this 
>document at the 
>>>> same time as GIST this is urgent.
>>>>
>>>> The only suggestion I have stemming from comments at the meeting is
>>>>       
>>> to
>>>     
>>>> 'separate the rules and guidelines.'
>>>>
>>>> Any input gratefully received.
>>>> In the meantime I will try to make a 'null' update just to change 
>>>> the title.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Elwyn
>>>>
>>>> Martin Stiemerling wrote:
>>>>       
>>>>> The new file name should basically read this way (copy'n'paste
>>>>>         
>>> error):
>>>     
>>>>> draft-ietf-nsis-ext-00.txt.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks to Hannes for pointing this
>>>>>
>>>>>  Martin
>>>>>
>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>
>>>>> NEC Laboratories Europe - Network Research Division NEC Europe 
>>>>> Limited | Registered Office: NEC House, 1 Victoria Road,
>>>>>         
>>> London W3 6BL | Registered in England 2832014
>>>     
>>>>>         
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
>>>>>>           
>>> Behalf Of
>>>     
>>>>>> Martin Stiemerling
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 3:05 PM
>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>> Subject: [NSIS] Getting started on NSIS extensibilty draft
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We have a draft to be completed urgently :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Using and Extending the NSIS Protocol Family 
>draft-nsis-ext-02.txt
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-nsis-ext-02
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> First thing to do is changing the file name to draft-ietf-nsis-
>>>>>>           
>>> ext-
>>>     
>>>>>> 02.txt.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please review it and send your comments.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Martin
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> NEC Laboratories Europe - Network Research Division NEC Europe 
>>>>>> Limited | Registered Office: NEC House, 1 Victoria
>>>>>>           
>>> Road,
>>>     
>>>>>> London W3 6BL | Registered in England 2832014
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