Re: FW: I-D Action:draft-ietf-nsis-ntlp-20.txt

> There is an updated GIST draft that again contains RAO 
> as interception mechanism 
 
1. Can someone from the IESG please explain how GIST can (eventually) progress from Experimental to PS given that it again uses RAO as the interception mechanism?  The reversion back to RAO seems ludicrous given that this was the basis for GIST getting hung up in the IESG to begin with.  For GIST to emerge from Experimental to PS, the IESG will have to then accept RAO for PS, which it could not do after all this time.  This is a Catch 22: It will therefore be impossible for GIST to advance beyond Experimental to PS.
 
2. We're still waiting for the IESG "majority opinion" to be posted, which supports the overall technical justification for the downgrade, as request back in April.
 
Jerry

--- On Wed, 6/3/09, Martin Stiemerling <[email protected]> wrote:


From: Martin Stiemerling <[email protected]>
Subject: [NSIS] FW: I-D Action:draft-ietf-nsis-ntlp-20.txt
To: "NSIS" <[email protected]>
Date: Wednesday, June 3, 2009, 9:07 AM


Hi all,

There is an updated GIST draft that again contains RAO as interception mechanism and addresses an issue with the ABNF of the stack-profile. 

The draft is now categorized as experimental and will go again to the IESG.

  Martin

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> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
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> This draft is a work item of the Next Steps in Signaling Working Group
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>     Title           : GIST: General Internet Signalling Transport
>     Author(s)       : H. Schulzrinne, M. Stiemerling
>     Filename        : draft-ietf-nsis-ntlp-20.txt
>     Pages           : 156
>     Date            : 2009-06-03
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> This document specifies protocol stacks for the routing and transport
> of per-flow signalling messages along the path taken by that flow
> through the network.  The design uses existing transport and security
> protocols under a common messaging layer, the General Internet
> Signalling Transport (GIST), which provides a common service for
> diverse signalling applications.  GIST does not handle signalling
> application state itself, but manages its own internal state and the
> configuration of the underlying transport and security protocols to
> enable the transfer of messages in both directions along the flow
> path.  The combination of GIST and the lower layer transport and
> security protocols provides a solution for the base protocol
> component of the "Next Steps in Signalling" framework.
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