[openpgp] Re: Using OpenPGP card hardware security devices w ith modern key packets
Simon Josefsson <[email protected]> Wed, 29 Jul 2026 19:00:59 +0200
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--===============5345621082993014559== Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature" --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Heiko Sch=E4fer <[email protected]> writes: > Your proposed scheme for example is entirely hostile to casual human > inspection of the hint field on the card, and also resists local key > lookup using a fingerprint substring straight from the card. Neither humans nor software should be mapping (parts of) the fingerprint to OpenPGP card "hint" field, should they? So if that is harder, it may be considered a feature. Using a hash like SHA2-256, even if truncated to 20 octets, make accidental collisions unlikely. An attacker needs to find a 20 octet SHA2-256 pre-image to trigger a non-accidental collision, although the exact threat vector is unclear to me. I believe most software has already been changed (or should be changed) to scan all keys on a card and see if they match whatever keys the software wants. The hint field should not be relied on except for display purposes (and maybe not even that), if I understand correctly. /Simon --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQNoBAEWCgMQFiEEo8ychwudMQq61M8vUXIrCP5HRaIFAmpqMcwUHHNpbW9uQGpv c2Vmc3Nvbi5vcmfCHCYAmDMEXJLOtBYJKwYBBAHaRw8BAQdACIcrZIvhrxDBkK9f V+QlTmXxo2naObDuGtw58YaxlOu0JVNpbW9uIEpvc2Vmc3NvbiA8c2ltb25Aam9z ZWZzc29uLm9yZz6IlgQTFggAPgIbAwULCQgHAgYVCAkKCwIEFgIDAQIeAQIXgBYh BLHSvRN1vst4TPT4xNc89jjFPAa+BQJp4fWRBQkOa+rdAAoJENc89jjFPAa+hWIA /1lQvrJeGlQq50lP6tm99D1zDy7J1tQ3ha4x0Jx7rkFTAP9hpUKuTvm6m1fXyiZV YZlu2+Id/Dq3CIAZvNF+XEr2BLgzBFySz4EWCSsGAQQB2kcPAQEHQOxTCIOaeXAx I2hIX4HK9bQTpNVei708oNr1Klm8qCGKiPUEGBYIACYCGwIWIQSx0r0Tdb7LeEz0 +MTXPPY4xTwGvgUCaeCW1wUJDmqLVgCBdiAEGRYIAB0WIQSjzJyHC50xCrrUzy9R cisI/kdFogUCXJLPgQAKCRBRcisI/kdFoqdMAQCgH45aseZgIrwKOvUOA9QfsmeE 8GZHYNuFHmM9FEQS6AD6A4x5aYvoY6lo98pgtw2HPDhmcCXFItjXCrV4A0GmJA4J ENc89jjFPAa+s7AA+gIIHpBApDpcDj1sKhzDngmpvwQf0VkHme6s+EG7qSgpAQDe /XMrU0c0Pa3ji85cMqZhvzJOFI/soe662lzL0QY3Bbg4BFySz2oSCisGAQQBl1UB BQEBB0AxlRumDW6nZY7A+VCfek9VpEx6PJmdJyYPt3lNHMd6HAMBCAeIfgQYFggA JgIbDBYhBLHSvRN1vst4TPT4xNc89jjFPAa+BQJp4JbXBQkOaottAAoJENc89jjF PAa+RNUA/2faQO/nFT06E+MlhlQdo/0chlQXC5TZMPTVvVBFwoLOAP9xLJK0ow5E jTzYJB4K810AL/Iv6PEOAEgA4cPTHVlbCQAKCRBRcisI/kdFomT5APkBMKr70uIN +KldLYpAdThj7C7dJnECeHkRopdIbGfNsgEA/KaJb5InP3uCvs7d7kZh+XJ+Bidd S66f+Hhr9pl4RAs= =iNI+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- --===============5345621082993014559== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline X19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX18Kb3BlbnBncCBt YWlsaW5nIGxpc3QgLS0gb3BlbnBncEBpZXRmLm9yZwpUbyB1bnN1YnNjcmliZSBzZW5kIGFuIGVt YWlsIHRvIG9wZW5wZ3AtbGVhdmVAaWV0Zi5vcmcK --===============5345621082993014559==--