Re: An opes services usage question

Alex Rousskov <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.ietf.opes
Message-ID <[email protected]>
John,

	I agree that if your problem space consists of routable
proxies with strong client affinity, then that is what you should
address first (while keeping more general load balancing demands in
mind, iff possible).

	My understanding is that we will start discussing OPES
rechartering very soon. Adding "OPES metadata exchange" protocol into
the discussion mix would be nice. Ideally, for the discussion to be
effective, there has to be a draft with a good outline of what the
problem space and possible solution directions are. Active
participation of interested parties in the WG would be key as well.

Thank you,

Alex.


On Mon, 12 Apr 2004, John G. Waclawsky wrote:

> To get back to the discussion. It seems that many of the assumptions
> in the background of our discussions about load balancers are based
> on web load balancers that provide virtual addresses and hide the
> server cluster from the user. But, I have been thinking a little
> differently in considering usage of an opes framework in the mobile
> wireless market segment. This segment may be unique in that load
> balancers do not rebalance for every client connection. Instead they
> typically rebalance on a "per client" basis. This is done because
> the devices that are being balanced have client information
> associated with their traffic such as $, access rights, browser form
> factors, XML style sheets...etc. Affinity to a particular server is
> strongly maintained for each client. Once affinity is in place the
> load balancer could operate, for example, by just replacing the
> destination MAC address as the traffic arrives based on the source
> IP address (you could view the load balancer as just a "bump on the
> wire").  I believe this additional information should help clarify
> what I am thinking, a bit. I guess I am looking for the simplest
> solution for this environment and I keep thinking the most elegant
> solution would be lower layer one.... just some of my thoughts...
>
> It seems that of the two limitations you suggest, the best way to
> proceed (IMO) would be to assume proxies with exposed/routable
> adresses.  I am thinking this assumption is the best one because it
> probably provides a faster solution, would be more flexible, and
> satisfies small deployment needs that do not have load balancers but
> still need the metadata returned to a specific server. I think we
> are also in agreement that with either limitation we still need
> something to support the metadata information exchange. I was also
> wondering if anyone else has any suggestions or additional
> information to consider?
>
> Regards  John
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