Re: One Party Consent Model

Alex Rousskov <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.ietf.opes
Message-ID <[email protected]>
On Thu, 15 Jul 2004, jfcm wrote:

> I fully agree with Alex: there will be no drastic change in OCP and
> P etc.  But this will not be OPES and there will be impossible
> problems of interoperation with the interconnected interapplications
> - as mentionned above.

I am not sure I have the energy to debate abstract "what is OPES?"
questions, but I do want to make sure that there are no "impossible
problems" with specific solutions we develop.

Can you give a specific example of an impossible technical problem?
Not a vague problem of "what do we call it?" or "who consented to this
change?", but a specific technical problem? An example where a working
system is badly broken by introduction of OPES-compliant SMTP
adaptations...

> Just one small question. Let assume a change is conditional to time.
> What is the time we chose as a reference. The time the mail was
> entered, the time it was sent, the time it reached each OPES filter,
> the time it reached every OPES filters, do we take into account the
> time the first mail or the last mail reached the filter? Let assume
> a very common case : authority changes at a given time (a different
> watch, a justice decision, etc.) and also the management rules.

It would be up to the rules author what time to use, on a per-message
basis, I think:

	if (system.time() > 15:30) { ... }
	if (message.ua_sent_time() < 13:10) { ... }
	if (random() > 0.5) { ... }

Are all valid P statements, triggering OPE adaptations. Where is an
"impossible [technical] problem" here?

Thanks,

Alex.
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