Re: Use Cases of Network Operation of LAP

On Tue, 31 Dec 2002, David Meyer wrote:

> 	Bert,
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> >> I have not see any comment/question or discussion on the below!
> >>
> >> What does that mean:
> >>  - we have not had time to read this?
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> 	I had forgotten I had read this one.

I have read much of it but want to do a detailed mark-up/commentary
but haven't gotten around to it yet.  Apologies.  I plan to do so soon
and reply to the authors.

> >>  - nobody is interested?
>
> 	Its not that I'm not interested, however, I am struggling
> 	with the point of this document.
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> >>  - silence means we agree that this is a good document and
> >>    that it represents real scenarios as we see with Large
> >>    Access Providers.
>
> 	Nope. Not at all. Rather, I would say it looks like a M&P
> 	document that many providers have, but I don't see it as
> 	an IETF document.

Not sure how it squares with people's ideas of IETF documents or work
but I feel there is value having seen too scattershot and sometimes
clueless an approach in what comes from the vendor community.
I can't entirely fault them as I don't believe service providers or
other users have presented a cohesive set of collective requirements.

I think there's good value in developing and publishing such
requirements and BCPs.

Whether the IETF or this list is the right place is something we could
debate, I suppose, but it seems to fit with my understanding of the
purpose of this list which www.ops.ietf.org lists as:
"for generic OPS-NM (Network Management) discussions"

Happy New Year,

Tony

> >>  - we're tired and we are not interested in reading?
>
> 	Tired yes, not interested in reading, no :-)
>
> >> Pls answer/comment if at all possible.
>
> 	Done.
>
> 	Dave
>
> 	[BTW, everyone have a safe and happy new year. Dave]
>
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> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Bert
> >>
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: Chen, Weijing [mailto:[email protected]]
> >> > Sent: dinsdag 26 november 2002 22:46
> >> > To: '[email protected]'; Randy Bush
> >> > Cc: '[email protected]'
> >> > Subject: Use Cases of Network Operation of LAP
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Bert, Randy, and all,
> >> >
> >> > We have just submitted the 01.txt of "Use Cases of Network
> >> > Operation of
> >> > Large Access Providers".  URL is
> >> > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-weijing-lap-ops-use-01.txt.
> >> >
> >> > We thus formerly request the reviews and comments from all
> >> > the participants
> >> > of OPS area.  After constructive discussion and modification, we would
> >> > further request this draft to be advanced to Informational
> >> > RFC, either as
> >> > individual or WG one.  Thank you for your support.
> >> >
> >> > Abstract:
> >> > This draft discusses the typical network operation use cases
> >> > of Large Access
> >> > Providers (LAP).  Since a LAP has hundreds of locations,
> >> > thousands of nodes,
> >> > millions of subscribers, where the law of large number
> >> > affects the bottom
> >> > line of network operation, a LAP has been always strives to streamline
> >> > network operation functions.  The use cases presented in this
> >> > document are
> >> > generic with respect to the type of network technology and
> >> > can be augmented
> >> > with technology-specific details.  They are intended to be
> >> > the baseline for
> >> > other network operation streamlining requirements.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Regards,
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Weijing Chen
> >> > SBC Technology Resources
> >> > 9505 Arboretum Blvd.
> >> > Austin, TX 78759
> >> > 512 372 5710
> >> > [email protected]
> >> >
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