[OPS-AREA]Proposals for ICMP Extensions: Operational Motivat ions & Rationale
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Hi OPS/INT,
There are many proposals to extend ICMP/ICMPv6 with new features, but we la=
ck on overall discussion about which operational issues some of the proposa=
ls are solving. There are also questions about deployabiliy of some of thes=
e extensions.
With that in mind, we will be scheduling a slot in IETF#126 OPSAREA Meeting=
to expose these ICMP-related work to the OPS community by providing a big =
picture of various extensions, highlighting the operational issues addresse=
d by the extensions, and discuss deployability challenges of some of these =
extensions. This is also an opportunity to seek for feedback from operators=
. The discussion may also assess if some guidance about extending ICMP/ICMP=
v6, while taking into account deployment matters, may be useful.
Ron kindly accepted to lead that discussion (thanks!). Feel free to use thi=
s thread to share your thoughts or reach out Ron if you want to contribute =
to the material that will be presented by Ron.
Cheers,
Med
* Reading material:
* draft-ietf-intarea-rfc8335bis
* draft-ietf-intarea-icmp-exten-hdr-len
* draft-ietf-intarea-extended-icmp-nodeid
* draft-ietf-6man-icmpv6-reflection
* draft-ietf-6man-icmpv6-ioam-conf-state
* draft-bonica-intarea-icmp-exten-hdr-len
* draft-jags-intarea-icmp-ext-underlay-info
* draft-pignataro-icmp-enviro-info
* draft-varhal-6man-icmp-srv6-vpn
* draft-mitchell-intarea-rfc5837bis
* draft-many-intarea-icmp-mp
* draft-yl-savnet-icmp-extension
* draft-xbm-intarea-icmp-query
* draft-liu-6man-icmp-verification
* draft-ali-6man-srv6-vpn-icmp-error-handling
* draft-xu-intarea-challenge-icmpv6
* draft-xu-intarea-vulnerabilities-forged-icmp
* draft-xu-intarea-challenge-icmpv4
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:"Courier New"">=
Hi OPS/INT, <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:"Courier New"">=
<o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:"Cour=
ier New"">There are many proposals to extend ICMP/ICMPv6 with new feat=
ures, but we lack on overall discussion about which operational issues some=
of the proposals are solving. There are also questions
about deployabiliy of some of these extensions.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:"Cour=
ier New""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:"Cour=
ier New"">With that in mind, we will be scheduling a slot in IETF#126 =
OPSAREA Meeting to expose these ICMP-related work to the OPS community by p=
roviding a big picture of various extensions, highlighting
the operational issues addressed by the extensions, and discuss deployabil=
ity challenges of some of these extensions. This is also an opportunity to =
seek for feedback from operators. The discussion may also assess if some gu=
idance about extending ICMP/ICMPv6,
while taking into account deployment matters, may be useful.<o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:"Cour=
ier New""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:"Cour=
ier New"">Ron kindly accepted to lead that discussion (thanks!). Feel =
free to use this thread to share your thoughts or reach out Ron if you want=
to contribute to the material that will be presented
by Ron.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:"Cour=
ier New""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:"Courier New"">=
Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:"Courier New"">=
Med <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:"Courier New"">=
<o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<ul style=3D"margin-top:0cm" type=3D"disc">
<li class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2"><span style=3D"fo=
nt-family:"Courier New"">Reading material:<o:p></o:p></span></li>=
<ul style=3D"margin-top:0cm" type=3D"circle">
<li class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-list:l1 level2 lfo2"><span style=3D"fo=
nt-family:"Courier New"">draft-ietf-intarea-rfc8335bis<o:p></o:p>=
</span></li><li class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-list:l1 level2 lfo2"><span=
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:"Courier New"">draft-ietf-in=
tarea-icmp-exten-hdr-len<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=3D"MsoNormal" styl=
e=3D"mso-list:l1 level2 lfo2"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&qu=
ot;Courier New"">draft-ietf-intarea-extended-icmp-nodeid<o:p></o:p></s=
pan></li><li class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-list:l1 level2 lfo2"><span st=
yle=3D"font-family:"Courier New"">draft-ietf-6man-icmpv6-reflecti=
on<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-list:l1 level=
2 lfo2"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:"Courier New"">=
draft-ietf-6man-icmpv6-ioam-conf-state<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=3D"M=
soNormal" style=3D"mso-list:l1 level2 lfo2"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"f=
ont-family:"Courier New"">draft-bonica-intarea-icmp-exten-hdr-len=
<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-list:l1 level2 =
lfo2"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:"Courier New"">dr=
aft-jags-intarea-icmp-ext-underlay-info<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=3D"=
MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-list:l1 level2 lfo2"><span style=3D"font-family:&qu=
ot;Courier New"">draft-pignataro-icmp-enviro-info<o:p></o:p></span></l=
i><li class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-list:l1 level2 lfo2"><span lang=3D"E=
N-US" style=3D"font-family:"Courier New"">draft-varhal-6man-icmp-=
srv6-vpn<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-list:l1=
level2 lfo2"><span style=3D"font-family:"Courier New"">draft-mit=
chell-intarea-rfc5837bis<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=3D"MsoNormal" styl=
e=3D"mso-list:l1 level2 lfo2"><span style=3D"font-family:"Courier New&=
quot;">draft-many-intarea-icmp-mp<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=3D"MsoNor=
mal" style=3D"mso-list:l1 level2 lfo2"><span style=3D"font-family:"Cou=
rier New"">draft-yl-savnet-icmp-extension<o:p></o:p></span></li><li cl=
ass=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-list:l1 level2 lfo2"><span style=3D"font-fam=
ily:"Courier New"">draft-xbm-intarea-icmp-query<o:p></o:p></span>=
</li><li class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-list:l1 level2 lfo2"><span style=
=3D"font-family:"Courier New"">draft-liu-6man-icmp-verification<o=
:p></o:p></span></li><li class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-list:l1 level2 lf=
o2"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:"Courier New"">draf=
t-ali-6man-srv6-vpn-icmp-error-handling<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=3D"=
MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-list:l1 level2 lfo2"><span style=3D"font-family:&qu=
ot;Courier New"">draft-xu-intarea-challenge-icmpv6<o:p></o:p></span></=
li><li class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-list:l1 level2 lfo2"><span lang=3D"=
EN-US" style=3D"font-family:"Courier New"">draft-xu-intarea-vulne=
rabilities-forged-icmp<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=3D"MsoNormal" style=
=3D"mso-list:l1 level2 lfo2"><span style=3D"font-family:"Courier New&q=
uot;">draft-xu-intarea-challenge-icmpv4<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
</ul>
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