[OPSAWG]Re: [nmrg] [NMOP] Re: [OPSAREA@IETF126 ] IRTF/IETF OPS Transfer: Status & Exploring Collaboration Opportunities
"Chongfeng Xie" <[email protected]> Sun, 28 Jun 2026 11:47:34 +0800
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div><div>Thank you for raising the point of pre=E2=80=91execution validati=
on, which I think is essential for the deployment of AI Agent for network =
operation. When you mention the term 'layer,' are you referring to a layer=
of a specific architecture or framework?</div><div><br></div><div>Best re=
gards</div><div>Chongfeng</div></div>=0A<blockquote style=3D"margin-Top: 0=
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o:[email protected]">=E3=80=90=E5=A4=96=E9=83=A8=E8=B4=A6=E5=8F=B7=E3=
=80=91April</a></div><div><b>Date:</b> 2026-06-25 11:33</div><di=
v><b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">Chongfeng Xie<=
/a></div><div><b>CC:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:Thomas.Graf-Zc0CTiu5wcBWk0Htik3J/[email protected]">=
Thomas.Graf</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">ops-area</a>; <a hre=
f=3D"mailto:[email protected]">opsawg</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">=
nmop</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>; <a href=3D"m=
ailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a></div>=
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F OPS Transfer: Status & Exploring Collaboration Opportunities</div></=
div></div><div><div class=3D"FoxDiv20260628103001217326" style=3D"overflow=
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ze: 16px; margin: 0px; color: rgb(15, 17, 21); font-family: quote-cjk-patc=
h, Inter, system-ui, -apple-system, system-ui, "Segoe UI", Robot=
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text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: initial;"><em>Dear =
Chongfeng and all,</em></p><p class=3D"ds-markdown-paragraph" style=3D"fon=
t-size: 16px; margin: 0px; color: rgb(15, 17, 21); font-family: quote-cjk-=
patch, Inter, system-ui, -apple-system, system-ui, "Segoe UI", R=
oboto, Oxygen, Ubuntu, Cantarell, "Open Sans", "Helvetica N=
eue", sans-serif; font-variant-ligatures: normal; orphans: 2; widows:=
2; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-decoration-thickness: initi=
al; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: initial;"><em>T=
hank you, Chongfeng, for the detailed and practical overview of AI agent c=
apabilities in network management. Your analysis of perception, planning, =
tool use, and the applicability of MCP and YANG is very helpful.</em></p><=
p class=3D"ds-markdown-paragraph" style=3D"font-size: 16px; margin: 0px; c=
olor: rgb(15, 17, 21); font-family: quote-cjk-patch, Inter, system-ui, -ap=
ple-system, system-ui, "Segoe UI", Roboto, Oxygen, Ubuntu, Canta=
rell, "Open Sans", "Helvetica Neue", sans-serif; font-=
variant-ligatures: normal; orphans: 2; widows: 2; background-color: rgb(25=
5, 255, 255); text-decoration-thickness: initial; text-decoration-style: i=
nitial; text-decoration-color: initial;"><em>I would like to raise one add=
itional aspect that I believe is critical but often overlooked: the need f=
or a pre=E2=80=91execution validation layer that assesses whether an AI ag=
ent=E2=80=99s proposed action is physically admissible before it is commit=
ted to the network. </em></p><p class=3D"ds-markdown-paragraph" style=
=3D"margin: 0px; font-variant-ligatures: normal; orphans: 2; widows: 2; ba=
ckground-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-decoration-thickness: initial; te=
xt-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: initial;"><i><font co=
lor=3D"#0f1115" face=3D"quote-cjk-patch, Inter, system-ui, -apple-system, =
system-ui, Segoe UI, Roboto, Oxygen, Ubuntu, Cantarell, Open Sans, Helveti=
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margin: 0px; font-variant-ligatures: normal; orphans: 2; widows: 2; backgr=
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ecoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: initial;"><i><font color=
=3D"#0f1115" face=3D"quote-cjk-patch, Inter, system-ui, -apple-system, sys=
tem-ui, Segoe UI, Roboto, Oxygen, Ubuntu, Cantarell, Open Sans, Helvetica =
Neue, sans-serif" size=3D"3"><span style=3D"caret-color: rgb(15, 17, 21);"=
>Best</span> regards,</font></i></p><p class=3D"ds-markdown-paragraph=
" style=3D"margin: 0px; font-variant-ligatures: normal; orphans: 2; widows=
: 2; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-decoration-thickness: init=
ial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: initial;"><i><=
font color=3D"#0f1115" face=3D"quote-cjk-patch, Inter, system-ui, -apple-s=
ystem, system-ui, Segoe UI, Roboto, Oxygen, Ubuntu, Cantarell, Open Sans, =
Helvetica Neue, sans-serif" size=3D"3">Ricardo </font></i></p><div><b=
r><blockquote type=3D"cite" style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0.5em;"><div>On Jun 24, 2026, at 9:14=E2=80=AFPM, Chongfeng X=
ie <[email protected]> wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchan=
ge-newline"><div><div style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: &qu=
ot;Microsoft YaHei UI"; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-var=
iant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: s=
tart; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-sp=
acing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><br cl=
ass=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><br></div><div style=3D"caret-color: rgb=
(0, 0, 0); font-family: "Microsoft YaHei UI"; font-size: 14px; f=
ont-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spa=
cing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; w=
hite-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; tex=
t-decoration: none;"><div>Hi Thomas,</div><div><br></div><div>Thank you fo=
r raising this topic for discussion. For the questions about AI agents, I'=
d like to provide my understanding for your reference. Network manag=
ement is a specific application of AI, and the management functions can be=
implemented across various AI agents that interact with the different com=
ponents of the network management system. </div><div><br></div><div>Q=
1. Which AI agents capabilities are suitable for network management? =
</div><div> A: AI agents have the following=
common capabilities, </div><div><br></div><div> - Perce=
ption: Processes multi-modal inputs (text, images, audio) and tracks conte=
xt and state over time.</div><div><br></div><div> - Planning =
& Reasoning: Breaks high-level goals into actionable sub-tasks, dynami=
cally re-plans when obstacles arise, and evaluates trade-offs before actin=
g.</div><div><br></div><div> - Tool Use & Execution: Auto=
nomously calls external tools=E2=80=94search engines, APIs, calendars, cod=
e interpreters, and databases=E2=80=94to take real action in the digital w=
orld (e.g., send emails, book flights, query data).</div><div><br></div><d=
iv> - Learning & Self-Correction: Detects errors, reflect=
s on outcomes, iterates on solutions, and utilizes both short-term and lon=
g-term memory to improve over time.</div><div><br></div><div>All the capab=
ilities above are useful for network management. With the underground supp=
ort of LLM models, the following functionalities can be realized by AI age=
nts in the context of network management,</div><div> &n=
bsp;</div><div> - Intent-based auto-assignment: Automatically =
routes NOC tickets based on detected intent.</div><div><br></div><div>&nbs=
p; - Intelligent root-cause analysis: Pinpoints fault origins with p=
recision.</div><div><br></div><div> - Actionable troubleshooti=
ng guidance: Generates step-by-step plans and recommended resolution=
s.</div><div><br></div><div> - AI-driven orchestration: =
Enables expert-human collaboration and automated execution of task reassig=
nments/suspensions.</div><div><br></div><div> - Continuous net=
work optimization: Delivers ongoing tuning recommendations for wirel=
ess, core, and cloud-network resources across diverse scenarios.</div><div=
><br></div><div> - Automated recovery verification: Vali=
dates fault resolution by querying network and perceptual metrics via LLM-=
orchestrated API calls.</div><div> </div><div>Q2. What i=
s the impact of an AI network management process to YANG information, serv=
ice, network and data modelling?</div><div> A: AI=
and legcay network management models belong to different domains, t=
he specific manangement modelling is aganostic to the AI network manangent=
process. In other words, AI system can process any YANG information, serv=
ice, network and data modelling. </div><div><br></div><div>Q3.&=
nbsp; Is MCP (<a href=3D"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Model_Context_Proto=
col">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Model_Context_Protocol</a>) a suitable =
protocol between AI agents and IETF network management data sources and sy=
stem components?</div><div> A: Yes, as an open st=
andard that connects AI models to external data and tools, MCP enables AI =
assistants to securely read files, query databases, and execute actions ac=
ross different applications. The likelihood of MCP being used betwee=
n between AI agents and IETF network management data sources and system co=
mponents is very high. </div><div>In addition, other approaches can b=
e used, such as APIs exposed by network controller, in this case, AI agent=
s can call the APIs directly for network device configuration or data coll=
ection. </div><div><br></div><div>Q4, How does an AI agent interact w=
ith Network Digital Twin, Intent-Based Networking, SIMAP, Knowledge Graphs=
and YANG data in Message Brokers?</div><div> A: It depe=
nds on the specific situation, there should be no one-size-fits-all soluti=
on.</div><div><br></div><div>The above feedbacks are based on our current =
practice. As AI for network is still in its early stages, our unders=
tanding may not be entirely accurate. We welcome any differing opinions.</=
div><div><br></div><div>Best regards</div><div>Chongfeng</div></div><div s=
tyle=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: "Microsoft YaHei UI&q=
uot;; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font=
-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px;=
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-tex=
t-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><br></div><blockquote style=
=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0.5em; caret-color: =
rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: "Microsoft YaHei UI"; font-size: 14px=
; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-=
spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none=
; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
text-decoration: none; margin-right: inherit;"><div style=3D"border-width:=
1pt medium medium; border-style: solid none none; border-color: rgb(181, =
196, 223) currentcolor currentcolor; border-image: none; padding: 3pt 0cm =
0cm;"><div style=3D"padding: 8px; font-size: 12px; font-family: tahoma; ba=
ckground: rgb(239, 239, 239);"><div><b>From:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:Th=
omas.Graf-Zc0CTiu5wcBWk0Htik3J/[email protected]" style=3D"color: rgb(70, 120, 134); text-decoration=
: underline;">Thomas.Graf-Zc0CTiu5wcBWk0Htik3J/[email protected]</a></div><div><b>Date:</b> 202=
6-06-21 16:43</div><div><b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:ops-area@ie=
tf.org" style=3D"color: rgb(70, 120, 134); text-decoration: underline;">op=
[email protected]</a>;<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><a =
href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" style=3D"color: rgb(70, 120, 134); text-de=
coration: underline;">[email protected]</a>;<span class=3D"Apple-converted-s=
pace"> </span><a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" style=3D"color: rgb(70=
, 120, 134); text-decoration: underline;">[email protected]</a>;<span class=3D=
"Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" styl=
e=3D"color: rgb(70, 120, 134); text-decoration: underline;">[email protected]<=
/a></div><div><b>CC:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]=
om" style=3D"color: rgb(70, 120, 134); text-decoration: underline;">mohame=
d..boucadair</a></div><div><b>Subject:</b> [NMOP] Re: [OPSAREA@IETF12=
6] IRTF/IETF OPS Transfer: Status & Exploring Collaboration Opportunit=
ies</div></div></div><div><div class=3D"FoxDiv20260625091121084783" style=
=3D"overflow-wrap: break-word;"><div class=3D"WordSection1" style=3D"page:=
WordSection1;"><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-fami=
ly: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 10pt; fon=
t-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif; color: rgb(14, 40, 65);">D=
ear NMRG, NMOP, OPSAWG and OPSAREA,<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"m=
argin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang=
=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS"=
, sans-serif; color: rgb(14, 40, 65);"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><s=
pan lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet =
MS", sans-serif; color: rgb(14, 40, 65);">First of all many thanks to=
Brad, Dan, Christopher, Alex, Qin and Bernard on their feedback. That=E2=
=80=99s a great start.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; f=
ont-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" styl=
e=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif; c=
olor: rgb(14, 40, 65);"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin=
: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-=
US" style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-=
serif; color: rgb(14, 40, 65);">I have been following this thread closely<=
span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href=3D"https://maila=
rchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/nmop/gTPL1eBj5e3GMMt8qeUWmPP4oMg/" style=3D"color=
: rgb(70, 120, 134); text-decoration: underline;">https://mailarchive.ietf=
..org/arch/msg/nmop/gTPL1eBj5e3GMMt8qeUWmPP4oMg/</a><span class=3D"Apple-co=
nverted-space"> </span>to understand wherever research and industry a=
doption comes closer together, wherever there is interest for having a joi=
nt discussion and on what particular topic.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div st=
yle=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><spa=
n lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS=
", sans-serif; color: rgb(14, 40, 65);"><o:p> </o:p></span></div=
><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-seri=
f;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Treb=
uchet MS", sans-serif; color: rgb(14, 40, 65);">What I observed so fa=
r is that we all share that AI in general and also AIOps research and adop=
tion rate has dramatically increased. So far everybody was very supportive=
on having a joint discussion. I would be interested to have more feedback=
, especially also from those who think that it would not bring much benefi=
t with reasons why.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font=
-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=
=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif; co=
lor: rgb(14, 40, 65);"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin:=
0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-U=
S" style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-s=
erif; color: rgb(14, 40, 65);">From what I observed, having an initial dis=
cussion on the following existing working group document topics and how th=
ey intersect<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: =
11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-=
size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif; color: rgb(=
14, 40, 65);"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><ul type=3D"disc" style=3D"mar=
gin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; list-style-position: inside;"><li class=
=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"color: rgb(14, 40, 65); margin: 0in 0in 0in=
0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN=
-US" style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans=
-serif;">Network Digital Twin (<a href=3D"https://datatracker..ietf.org/do=
c/html/draft-irtf-nmrg-network-digital-twin-arch" style=3D"color: rgb(70, =
120, 134); text-decoration: underline;">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/h=
tml/draft-irtf-nmrg-network-digital-twin-arch</a>)<o:p></o:p></span></li><=
li class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"color: rgb(14, 40, 65); margin: 0in=
0in 0in 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span la=
ng=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS&quo=
t;, sans-serif;">Intent-Based Networking (<a href=3D"https://datatracker.i=
etf.org/doc/html/draft-irtf-nmrg-ibn-usecases" style=3D"color: rgb(70, 120=
, 134); text-decoration: underline;">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html=
/draft-irtf-nmrg-ibn-usecases</a>)<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=3D"MsoL=
istParagraph" style=3D"color: rgb(14, 40, 65); margin: 0in 0in 0in 0.5in; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"IT" style=
=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;">S=
IMAP (</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: &=
quot;Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;"><a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.=
org/doc/html/draft-ietf-nmop-simap-concept" style=3D"color: rgb(70, 120, 1=
34); text-decoration: underline;"><span lang=3D"IT">https://datatracker.ie=
tf..org/doc/html/draft-ietf-nmop-simap-concept</span></a></span><span lang=
=3D"IT" style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", s=
ans-serif;">)<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=
=3D"color: rgb(14, 40, 65); margin: 0in 0in 0in 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; fo=
nt-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 10=
pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;">YANG-Push to Messa=
ge Broker integration (<a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/dr=
aft-ietf-nmop-yang-message-broker-integration" style=3D"color: rgb(70, 120=
, 134); text-decoration: underline;">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html=
/draft-ietf-nmop-yang-message-broker-integration</a>)<o:p></o:p></span></l=
i></ul><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, san=
s-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: &quo=
t;Trebuchet MS", sans-serif; color: rgb(14, 40, 65);"><o:p> </o:=
p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Ap=
tos, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-fami=
ly: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif; color: rgb(14, 40, 65);">and the=
n having a discussions on the following raised questions perhaps:<o:p></o:=
p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Ap=
tos, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-fami=
ly: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif; color: rgb(14, 40, 65);"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></div><ul type=3D"disc" style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-=
bottom: 0px; list-style-position: inside;"><li class=3D"MsoListParagraph" =
style=3D"color: rgb(14, 40, 65); margin: 0in 0in 0in 0.5in; font-size: 11p=
t; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-siz=
e: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;">Which AI agen=
ts capabilities are suitable for network management?<o:p></o:p></span></li=
><li class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"color: rgb(14, 40, 65); margin: 0=
in 0in 0in 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS&q=
uot;, sans-serif;">What is the impact of an AI network management process =
to YANG information, service, network and data modelling?<o:p></o:p></span=
></li><li class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"color: rgb(14, 40, 65); marg=
in: 0in 0in 0in 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><=
span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet=
MS", sans-serif;">Is MCP (<a href=3D"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M=
odel_Context_Protocol" style=3D"color: rgb(70, 120, 134); text-decoration:=
underline;">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Model_Context_Protocol</a>) a s=
uitable protocol between AI agents and IETF network management data source=
s and system components?<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=3D"MsoListParagra=
ph" style=3D"color: rgb(14, 40, 65); margin: 0in 0in 0in 0.5in; font-size:=
11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font=
-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;">How does =
an AI agent interact with Network Digital Twin, Intent-Based Networking, S=
IMAP, Knowledge Graphs and YANG data in Message Brokers?<o:p></o:p></span>=
</li></ul><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, =
sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: &=
quot;Trebuchet MS", sans-serif; color: rgb(14, 40, 65);"><o:p> <=
/o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family:=
Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-f=
amily: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif; color: rgb(14, 40, 65);">and =
move from there into some proposed work addressing these areas. And last b=
ut not least maybe wrapping up around running code. How experiments could =
facilitate and exchange between both working groups. Alex brought up that =
ANRW is once a year and perhaps on one or two other occasion the two worki=
ng group could continuously actively exchange every year could be an inter=
esting proposal.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-si=
ze: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"f=
ont-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif; color: =
rgb(14, 40, 65);"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><ul type=3D"disc" style=3D=
"margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; list-style-position: inside;"><li cl=
ass=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"color: rgb(14, 40, 65); margin: 0in 0in =
0in 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D=
"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", s=
ans-serif;">Would that be a potential interesting agenda for everybody?<o:=
p></o:p></span></li><li class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"color: rgb(14,=
40, 65); margin: 0in 0in 0in 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, =
sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: &=
quot;Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;">Did I miss anything or shall we focu=
s more on a particular item?<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=3D"MsoListPar=
agraph" style=3D"color: rgb(14, 40, 65); margin: 0in 0in 0in 0.5in; font-s=
ize: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"=
font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;">Any p=
articular discussion structure you would fancy?<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul=
><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-seri=
f;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Treb=
uchet MS", sans-serif; color: rgb(14, 40, 65);"><o:p> </o:p></sp=
an></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, s=
ans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: &q=
uot;Trebuchet MS", sans-serif; color: rgb(14, 40, 65);">I also observ=
ed that authors authoring Knowledge Graph documents have voiced wherever K=
nowledge Graph could be a topic of interest. I would love to see more disc=
ussions from other areas on this in particular how this intersects with AI=
Ops and AI assisted network management topics. I saw also that ontologies =
have been mentioned, which I personally besides semantics believe plays an=
important role with interacting with AI agents.<o:p></o:p></span></div><d=
iv style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"=
><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuch=
et MS", sans-serif; color: rgb(14, 40, 65);"><o:p> </o:p></span>=
</div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans=
-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: "=
;Trebuchet MS", sans-serif; color: rgb(14, 40, 65);">As I am human, a=
nd not an AI agent, the observations and suggestions might be unintentiona=
lly bias. So please feedback and comment.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div styl=
e=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS&q=
uot;, sans-serif; color: rgb(14, 40, 65);"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><=
div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;=
"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuc=
het MS", sans-serif; color: rgb(14, 40, 65);">Best wishes<o:p></o:p><=
/span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos=
, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family:=
"Trebuchet MS", sans-serif; color: rgb(14, 40, 65);">Thomas<o:p=
></o:p></span></div></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font=
-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 10pt=
; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif; color: rgb(14, 40, 65=
);"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div><div style=3D"border-width: 1pt med=
ium medium; border-style: solid none none; border-color: rgb(225, 225, 225=
) currentcolor currentcolor; border-image: none; padding: 3pt 0in 0in;"><d=
iv style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"=
><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">From:=
</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;=
"><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>Graf Thomas, SCS-INI-=
NET-VNC-E2E<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><b>Sent:=
</b><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>Monday, June 1, 202=
6 7:16 AM<br><b>To:</b><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>=
Nmop <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" style=3D"color: rgb(70, 120, 134=
); text-decoration: underline;">[email protected]</a>>;<span class=3D"Apple=
-converted-space"> </span><a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" style=3D"c=
olor: rgb(70, 120, 134); text-decoration: underline;">[email protected]</a><br=
><b>Cc:</b><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>Mohamed Bouc=
adair <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" style=3D"color: =
rgb(70, 120, 134); text-decoration: underline;">[email protected]=
om</a>>; nmrg-chairs <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" style=
=3D"color: rgb(70, 120, 134); text-decoration: underline;">nmrg-chairs@iet=
f.org</a>>; Nmop-chairs <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" sty=
le=3D"color: rgb(70, 120, 134); text-decoration: underline;">nmop-chairs@i=
etf.org</a>><br><b>Subject:</b><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&n=
bsp;</span>FW: [OPSAREA@IETF126] IRTF/IETF OPS Transfer: Status & Expl=
oring Collaboration Opportunities<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><o=
:p> </o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-fami=
ly: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: "=
;Trebuchet MS", sans-serif; color: rgb(14, 40, 65);">Dear NMRG and NM=
OP,<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; fon=
t-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family:=
"Trebuchet MS", sans-serif; color: rgb(14, 40, 65);"><o:p> =
;</o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-famil=
y: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font=
-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif; color: rgb(14, 40, 65);">Me=
d approached me wherever I am willing to facilitate with the support of bo=
th working group chairs a discussion between NMRG and NMOP on common inter=
ests.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; f=
ont-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 1=
0pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif; color: rgb(14, 40,=
65);"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size:=
11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font=
-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif; color: rgb=
(14, 40, 65);">Looking at the list of current adopted documents<o:p></o:p>=
</span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Apto=
s, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family=
: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif; color: rgb(14, 40, 65);"><o:p>&nbs=
p;</o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-fami=
ly: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 10pt; fon=
t-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif; color: rgb(14, 40, 65);"><=
a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/group/nmrg/documents/" style=3D"col=
or: rgb(70, 120, 134); text-decoration: underline;">https://datatracker.ie=
tf.org/group/nmrg/documents/</a><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"marg=
in: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"E=
N-US" style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", san=
s-serif; color: rgb(14, 40, 65);"><a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/=
wg/nmop/documents/" style=3D"color: rgb(70, 120, 134); text-decoration: un=
derline;">https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/nmop/documents/</a><o:p></o:p></=
span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos,=
sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: =
"Trebuchet MS", sans-serif; color: rgb(14, 40, 65);"><o:p> =
</o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family=
: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-=
family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif; color: rgb(14, 40, 65);">but=
also looking at AIOps related proposals<span class=3D"Apple-converted-spa=
ce"> </span><a href=3D"https://github.com/IETF-OPS-AD/misc/blob/main/=
ai-submissions-ietf125.md" style=3D"color: rgb(70, 120, 134); text-decorat=
ion: underline;">https://github.com/IETF-OPS-AD/misc/blob/main/ai-submissi=
ons-ietf125.md</a>, and the related past side meetings in the network mana=
gement domain, I see that the lifecycle on research and industry adoption =
of model and data driven network management becomes accelerated and theref=
ore research and industry adoption comes more and more closer together. Lo=
oking at the bluesheets of IETF 125, I see that we had 107 participants fo=
r NMRG and 115 for NMOP and 36 participants were attending both NMRG and N=
MOP.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; fo=
nt-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 10=
pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif; color: rgb(14, 40, =
65);"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: =
11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-=
size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif; color: rgb(=
14, 40, 65);">Or in other words, I personally believe that both working gr=
oups have a lot in common but also a also few things which makes them very=
unique and interesting to facilitate such a discussion.<o:p></o:p></span>=
</div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans=
-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: "=
;Trebuchet MS", sans-serif; color: rgb(14, 40, 65);"><o:p> </o:p=
></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Apt=
os, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-famil=
y: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif; color: rgb(14, 40, 65);">I might =
be wrong and therefore would like to get some feedback from both mailing l=
ists first:<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 1=
1pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-s=
ize: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif; color: rgb(1=
4, 40, 65);"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><ul type=3D"disc" style=3D"marg=
in-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; list-style-position: inside;"><li class=
=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"color: rgb(14, 40, 65); margin: 0in 0in 0in=
0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN=
-US" style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans=
-serif;">Would you agree that the lifecycle on research and industry adopt=
ion of model and data driven network management becomes accelerated and th=
erefore research and industry adoption comes more and more closer together=
?<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; f=
ont-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 1=
0pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif; color: rgb(14, 40,=
65);"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><ul type=3D"disc" style=3D"margin-top=
: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; list-style-position: inside;"><li class=3D"MsoL=
istParagraph" style=3D"color: rgb(14, 40, 65); margin: 0in 0in 0in 0.5in; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" sty=
le=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;"=
>Is there an interest at the NMRG and NMOP communities to have an exchange=
on currently adopted and future proposed work to identify synergies and c=
ommon interests in both working groups and discuss how they could be addre=
ssed better?<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-si=
ze: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"f=
ont-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif; color: =
rgb(14, 40, 65);"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><ul type=3D"disc" style=3D=
"margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; list-style-position: inside;"><li cl=
ass=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"color: rgb(14, 40, 65); margin: 0in 0in =
0in 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D=
"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", s=
ans-serif;">Do you have a particular topic, set of documents or interest a=
lready in mind?<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font=
-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=
=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif; co=
lor: rgb(14, 40, 65);"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin:=
0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-U=
S" style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-s=
erif; color: rgb(14, 40, 65);">Best wishes<o:p></o:p></span></div><div sty=
le=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span=
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS&=
quot;, sans-serif; color: rgb(14, 40, 65);">Thomas<o:p></o:p></span></div>=
<div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif=
;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebu=
chet MS", sans-serif; color: rgb(14, 40, 65);"><o:p> </o:p></spa=
n></div><div><div style=3D"border-width: 1pt medium medium; border-style: =
solid none none; border-color: rgb(225, 225, 225) currentcolor currentcolo=
r; border-image: none; padding: 3pt 0in 0in;"><div style=3D"margin: 0in; f=
ont-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" s=
tyle=3D"font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span lang=3D"E=
N-US" style=3D"font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span class=3D"Apple-con=
verted-space"> </span><a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]"=
style=3D"color: rgb(70, 120, 134); text-decoration: underline;">mohamed..=
[email protected]</a><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span=
><<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" style=3D"color: rgb(7=
0, 120, 134); text-decoration: underline;">[email protected]</a=
>><br><b>Sent:</b><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>Mo=
nday, May 4, 2026 10:21 AM<br><b>To:</b><span class=3D"Apple-converted-spa=
ce"> </span>Graf Thomas, SCS-INI-NET-VNC-E2E <<a href=3D"mailto:Th=
omas.Graf-Zc0CTiu5wcBWk0Htik3J/[email protected]" style=3D"color: rgb(70, 120, 134); text-decoration=
: underline;">Thomas.Graf-Zc0CTiu5wcBWk0Htik3J/[email protected]</a>>;<span class=3D"Apple-conver=
ted-space"> </span><a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" style=3D"c=
olor: rgb(70, 120, 134); text-decoration: underline;">[email protected]=
</a>; Nmop-chairs <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" style=3D"col=
or: rgb(70, 120, 134); text-decoration: underline;">[email protected]</=
a>><br><b>Cc:</b><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>ops=
-ads <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" style=3D"color: rgb(70, 120, =
134); text-decoration: underline;">[email protected]</a>>; Dirk KUTSCHER=
<<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" style=3D"color: rgb(70, 120, 13=
4); text-decoration: underline;">[email protected]</a>><br><b>Subject:=
</b><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>[OPSAREA@IETF126] I=
RTF/IETF OPS Transfer: Status & Exploring Collaboration Opportunities<=
o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 1=
1pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p> </o:=
p></span></div><table class=3D"MsoNormalTable" border=3D"0" cellspacing=3D=
"0" cellpadding=3D"0" align=3D"left" width=3D"100%" style=3D"width: 1315px=
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55, 248, 229); padding: 5pt 4pt 5pt 12pt;"><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in;=
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><b><span style=3D"font-=
size: 12pt; color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">Be aware:</span></b><span style=3D"fo=
nt-size: 12pt; color: rgb(34, 34, 34);"><span class=3D"Apple-converted-spa=
ce"> </span>This is an external email.<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><=
/td></tr></tbody></table><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-=
family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"FR" style=3D"font-size: 12pt;"><=
o:p> </o:p></span></div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11=
pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"FR" style=3D"font-famil=
y: "Courier New";">Hi all,<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=
</span><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size:=
11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"FR" style=3D"font-fa=
mily: "Courier New";"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style=
=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span l=
ang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family: "Courier New";">I had severa=
l discussions recently with many IETF participants about the relationship =
between some work done in the IRTF and IETF. Specifically, I heard several=
questions about the current mode of operation between NMRG and OPS and wh=
ether/how activity transfer is happening between the two communities. I do=
see a value in bringing some of these items from hallway discussion to ou=
r formal meetings :-)<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; fo=
nt-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=
=3D"font-family: "Courier New";"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><=
div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;=
"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family: "Courier New";">Thi=
s can be the opportunity to explore between collaboration between the comm=
unities, and not rely only on the leadership level. See, for example, the =
following excerpt form the NMRG Charter:<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=
=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span l=
ang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family: "Courier New";"><o:p> <=
/o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family:=
Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family: "Cour=
ier New";"> =E2=80=9CThe IETF Operations and Management A=
rea Directors are members of the NMRG<br> mailing list and inv=
ited to NMRG meetings in order to ensure free flow of<br> info=
rmation in both directions, and to avoid duplication of work with the<br>&=
nbsp; various IETF working groups..=E2=80=9D<o:p></o:p></span></div>=
<div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif=
;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family: "Courier New";"><o=
:p> </o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; fo=
nt-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family: =
"Courier New";">There are several WG/RG pairs that may be consid=
ered for collaboration (NMRG/NMOP, MAPRG/IPPM, etc.) but I think that it w=
ould be better to scope the discussion to a specific area. I suggest to fo=
cus this time on NMRG/NMOP.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0=
in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US"=
style=3D"font-family: "Courier New";"><o:p> </o:p></span><=
/div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-=
serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family: "Courier New"=
;">Thomas kindly accepted to drive a discussion on this topic in the IETF#=
126 OPSAREA Session with some proposals to bridge both communities. Thomas=
is also willing to collect feedback and coordinate between the NMRG/NMOP =
Chairs, in particular.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; f=
ont-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" styl=
e=3D"font-family: "Courier New";"><o:p> </o:p></span></div>=
<div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif=
;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family: "Courier New";">@N=
MOP/@NMRG Chairs: Would you be interested/willing to work with Thomas to c=
onsolidate some discussion material? Thoughts and suggestions are welcome.=
<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-f=
amily: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family: &quo=
t;Courier New";"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: =
0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US=
" style=3D"font-family: "Courier New";">Thank you.<o:p></o:p></s=
pan></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, =
sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family: "Courier New&=
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: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"fon=
t-family: "Courier New";">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></div><div st=
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