[OPS-AREA]Re: Proposals for ICMP Extensions: Operational M otivations & Rationale

Tobias Fiebig <[email protected]> Sat, 01 Aug 2026 12:28:26 +0200
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Moin,

as i already said at the mic, I am happy to help; I currently do not
have ICMP related drafts of my own, but some things i am passionate
about (RFC8950/v4-with-v6-nexthop) would really benefit from some of
those drafts making progress.


> Just throwing this in as a thought as i IIRC did not note this at the
> mic; I coarsely see two groups in here; What I think might be a good
> thing is clarifying the creation of state (specific to ICMP/ICMPv6)
> via ICMP/ICMPv6 messages and/or state dependence. That will entail
> some security considerations tied to that.
>=20
> [JMC] Not just state. =C2=A0Some of those drafts expose access to
> management data that has traditionally been protected behind some
> form of credential. =C2=A0Exposing it to=E2=80=9Canyone=E2=80=9D=C2=A0wit=
h no real
> accountability definitely raises their own security considerations.

Yes, I agree on that (and iirc also said sth. along those lines on the
mic); There is a tendency of new proposals to suggest adding state
keeping, which would just be a DoS waiting to happen.

With best regards,
Tobias

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