[OPS-AREA]Re: Proposals for ICMP Extensions: Operational M otivations & Rationale
Tobias Fiebig <[email protected]> Sat, 01 Aug 2026 12:28:26 +0200
| Newsgroups | gmane.ietf.ops,gmane.ietf.opsawg,gmane.ietf.int |
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| Organization | Max-Planck-Institut für Informatik, FG INET |
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That will entail > some security considerations tied to that. >=20 > [JMC] Not just state. =C2=A0Some of those drafts expose access to > management data that has traditionally been protected behind some > form of credential. =C2=A0Exposing it to=E2=80=9Canyone=E2=80=9D=C2=A0wit= h no real > accountability definitely raises their own security considerations. Yes, I agree on that (and iirc also said sth. along those lines on the mic); There is a tendency of new proposals to suggest adding state keeping, which would just be a DoS waiting to happen. With best regards, Tobias --=20 My working day may not be your working day. 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