Re: Heads up

Erik Kline <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.ietf.v6ops,gmane.ietf.ops
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Didn't Akira Nakagawa/KDDI present something like this a few meetings
ago?  I can't recall clearly...

On 9 November 2010 13:21, Brian E Carpenter <[email protected]> wrote:
> Dave,
>
> On 2010-11-09 17:09, David Conrad wrote:
>> I'm confused, but that may be because of lack of information.
>>
>> Ignoring for the time being the advisability of doing this, if we're talking about a new pseudo-RFC 1918 block, why is it going to a regional registry?  Presumably its use would be global.  Shouldn't it be a direct allocation by IANA as a result of IETF action?
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/End_run
>
>    Brian
>
>> Regards,
>> -drc
>>
>> On Nov 8, 2010, at 6:01 PM, Randy Bush wrote:
>>
>>>> Chris Liljenstolpe has a proposal that he made in ops-area today, for
>>>> a mechanism to create what amounts to an RFC 1918 prefix, but
>>>> specifically for use in NAT444 ISP configurations. It involves a
>>>> request to the ARIN board. He will write a quick draft and post it
>>>> this week, discuss this Thursday in the Ops WG, and call the question
>>>> in Friday's v6ops meeting. Due to the real time nature of the
>>>> discussion, I'll ask folks to be aware and follow it.
>>> i have been fighting against this wrong-headed proposal for a couple of
>>> years, since they first tried it in apnic, from which we sent them to
>>> ietf.
>>>
>>> it is a hack which perpetuates their kludge and does not help ipv6 one
>>> little bit.
>>>
>>> they made the current mess and this just delays the inevitable and
>>> they'll want some other silliness to bail them out next time.
>>>
>>> the space will be immediately be used by others, and thus will defeat
>>> the alleged purpose of giving them private space with which to stitch
>>> together 1918 customers.
>>>
>>> it will cement in and perpetuate the n-level ipv4 nat model.
>>>
>>> randy
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