Re: [v6ops] Heads up

Arturo Servin <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.ietf.ops,gmane.ietf.v6ops
Message-ID <[email protected]>
	I should have said, "longer" than a /8.

	Thanks for the offline comments about it.

Regards,
-as

On 9 Nov 2010, at 07:23, Arturo Servin wrote:

> 
> 	Not sure if IANA can issue something shorter than a /8.
> 
> -as
> 
> On 9 Nov 2010, at 06:34, Christopher LILJENSTOLPE wrote:
> 
>> Greetings,
>> 
>> 	Fred, I think, mis-typed.   The request would go to IANA.  The space, to answer the other question is either /10 or /12.
>> 
>> Chris
>> 
>> On 09Nov2010, at 15.21, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
>> 
>>> Dave,
>>> 
>>> On 2010-11-09 17:09, David Conrad wrote:
>>>> I'm confused, but that may be because of lack of information.
>>>> 
>>>> Ignoring for the time being the advisability of doing this, if we're talking about a new pseudo-RFC 1918 block, why is it going to a regional registry?  Presumably its use would be global.  Shouldn't it be a direct allocation by IANA as a result of IETF action?
>>> 
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/End_run
>>> 
>>>    Brian
>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> -drc
>>>> 
>>>> On Nov 8, 2010, at 6:01 PM, Randy Bush wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>> Chris Liljenstolpe has a proposal that he made in ops-area today, for
>>>>>> a mechanism to create what amounts to an RFC 1918 prefix, but
>>>>>> specifically for use in NAT444 ISP configurations. It involves a
>>>>>> request to the ARIN board. He will write a quick draft and post it
>>>>>> this week, discuss this Thursday in the Ops WG, and call the question
>>>>>> in Friday's v6ops meeting. Due to the real time nature of the
>>>>>> discussion, I'll ask folks to be aware and follow it.
>>>>> i have been fighting against this wrong-headed proposal for a couple of
>>>>> years, since they first tried it in apnic, from which we sent them to
>>>>> ietf.
>>>>> 
>>>>> it is a hack which perpetuates their kludge and does not help ipv6 one
>>>>> little bit.  
>>>>> 
>>>>> they made the current mess and this just delays the inevitable and
>>>>> they'll want some other silliness to bail them out next time.
>>>>> 
>>>>> the space will be immediately be used by others, and thus will defeat
>>>>> the alleged purpose of giving them private space with which to stitch
>>>>> together 1918 customers.
>>>>> 
>>>>> it will cement in and perpetuate the n-level ipv4 nat model.
>>>>> 
>>>>> randy
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