Re: Heads up - Plea for allocating a /8 to ISPs

Roger Jørgensen <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.ietf.v6ops,gmane.ietf.ops
Message-ID <[email protected]>
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 3:30 AM, Rémi Després <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi, Ron,
>
> Le 9 nov. 2010 à 13:26, Ronald Bonica a écrit :
>> I am having a strange sense of déjà vu. About two years ago, we saw another
>> proposal to allocate a /8 for private use to support another transition mechanism.
>> We concluded:
>>
>> - that we didn't have a /8 to spare
>
> - Allocating a /8 to ISPs, while it is still feasible, would only slightly modify the date
> at which IPv4 prefixes er exhausted, not a big deal.
>
>> - that a /8 wouldn't be enough, anyway
>
> - ISPs already operate several parallel instances of 10/8 clouds, so that, although
> a /7 would be more generous than better a /8, a new /8 is enough to replace
> current 10/8's by a prefix private sites don't uses internally.
>
> The known reason why ISPs have problems if they assign 10/8's is that some NAT44s:
>  . assign 10/8's for internal use
>  . cannot work with identical internal and external address spaces
>
> CONCLUSION:
> Assigning a new /8 to ISPs so that they can replace 10/8:
> - is easy to do
> - has negligible effect on the transition schedule
> - does solve a real problem
> It should, in view of this analysis above, be highly recommended by IETF
<snip>

I'm still pretty young compared to most here, only close 15years in the Internet
game but I've already seen enough to be scared of suggestions like the one
that started this.

You're conclusion and the suggestion only make the matter worse really.
You put of the problem into the future instead of solving it.
If the problem is as bad as everyone say, why not make it 50 x 10.0.0.0/8
instead of 40 x ? (someone said something about verizon had used over 40).
You have the adresses, you know how to do it, just do it _and_ at the same
time deploy IPv6.


When you've painted yourself into a corner, why also point the walls around
you just because you are in a corner?


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