Re: [OPSAWG] [v6ops] Heads up - Plea for allocating a /8 to ISPs

Brian E Carpenter <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.ietf.ops,gmane.ietf.v6ops
Organization University of Auckland
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Chris,

On 2010-11-12 19:43, Christopher LILJENSTOLPE wrote:
> It's not being used for internal devices, please re-read the draft.  It is to enable NAT444 to allow the delivery of IPv4 services, after run-out, using NAT444, to act as the v4 substrate between a CPE supporting 1918 to the customer, and the public internet.

Isn't it more precisely:

"the v4 substrate between a CPE/NAT supporting 1918 to the customer, and a CGN that
connects to the public internet."

Do you have a canonical value for the maximum number of customers
that can be served by one CGN? That sets a bound on the length of prefix
you need (assuming Balkanized routing within the ISP, which I presume
is going to be SOP).

For example 100,000 customers would need a /15, re-used for each CGN.

A /10 appears to be enough for 2*22 customers per CGN, which seems
like more than plenty.

Even a /12 seems generous: 1M customers per CGN.

So my bottom line is: use 172.16/12; and a minority of customers
will have to renumber internally into 10/8.

That is IMHO much better than breaking everything that has RFC 1918
knowledge built into it.

    Brian
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