Re: RE: AD request / L2 Triggers Charter Statement

Vernon Schryver writes:
> And no, an individual's difficulties getting an idea heard by the Open
> Group would not be a reason for the IETF to go to war with the Open
> Group....or the ITU, IEEE, ANSI, or any other standards group.

Would you like Frame Relay or MPLS with that?  ;-}

> >              ...  (If the idea can't survive outside of the standards
> > track, then I'm afraid I must not completely understand the issue.)
> 
> No, that an idea cannot survive outside of the standards track only
> shows that the idea is seen as wrong or useless by the people who
> matter.

No, that's not what I was saying, though I think you're right about
that.  To rephrase my statement in more precise terms:

	"If the advocates of this L2-L3 internal signaling are unable
	to accept writing their proposal into an Informational RFC,
	and they instead require Standards Track or nothing at all,
	then I don't understand the issue with which they are
	dealing."

In other words, why do the advocates think that there _must_ be such a
standard?  I suspect that there's some sort of disconnect here.
Perhaps some other standards body thinks that it can only "rely on"
standards-track documents (yes, I've seen this aberrant behavior
before; "informative references" sometimes cause pain).  Or perhaps
it's merely some bureaucratic regulation enforced by some designer's
employer.  I'm not sure, but I don't see what the issue is.

> The difference between Informational and Standards Track RFCs is
> that the former document ideas while the latter document the
> consensus of the IETF about an idea the consensus says is good and
> also the business of the IETF.  There could be an RFC about world
> peace and hunger, but it should not be on the standards track.

Strongly agree, though that wasn't my point at all.

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