[pim] Gorry Fairhurst's Discuss on draft-ietf-pim-zeroconf-m cast-addr-alloc-ps-09: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
Gorry Fairhurst via Datatracker <[email protected]> Thu, 20 Nov 2025 04:18:07 -0800
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Gorry Fairhurst has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-pim-zeroconf-mcast-addr-alloc-ps-09: Discuss When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/statements/handling-ballot-positions/ for more information about how to handle DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pim-zeroconf-mcast-addr-alloc-ps/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- DISCUSS: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (1) The documents says it defines requirements. I saw in the abstract this statement: "The document presents explicit requirements covering discovery", but yet from a standards perspective it does not - there are no formal requirements based on RFC-2119 keywords derived. That may well be suitable for an Informational document, and I expect the declaration of keywords can also be removed, and this sentence could be rewritten as guidance for future work rather than requirements? - I see new text, and plan to re-review the RFC-2119 usage. ... Thank you, I think the new text resolves my other DISCUSS positions. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- COMMENT: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Thank you Joe Touch for his TSV-ART review, I'd like to pick-up on the issues discussed there, so include them here: (i) It also appears that the limited number of (host) hardware address filters has been overlooked; i.e., if a device is capable of filtering only 4 multicast addresses in hardware, the device would more efficiently support 7 addresses if at least 3 DID collide, rather than ensuring that none collide. When no addresses collide and the number of filters is exceeded, the network interface is driven into promiscuous mode that requires software filtering – i.e., it completely undermines the goal of this doc. (ii) The protocol requirements need some refinement. Resistance to failure is NOT the same as robustness to a single point of failure; the tag phrase and the definition need to be adjusted to align. Item 3 is “multicast self-assignment protocol coexistence”, i.e., this isn’t about interoperation with other protocols in general. Item 7 (collision detection and resolution) is not a requirement; it is an approach to satisfying other requirements, such as 1, 2, and 5. It would help if the tag phrases were similar (they seem to be phrases defining properties, except for #6, which should be “supports host-level multiplexing” – check this throughout for all lists). (iii) The Note needs revision; the collisions arise after *rejoining disconnected networks caused by* a temporary network partition. I.e., it is the rejoining that causes the problem, not the partitioning. The second list should describe goals of a design; it seems odd to include “cross-platform availability”, as this seems to conflate deployment with OS capabilities; it is difficult to appreciate what OS properties could ever interfere with these mechanisms. An example would help as would rephrasing this as “OS independence”. ... Please see additional comments in the review that may also be helpful. _______________________________________________ pim mailing list -- [email protected] To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected]