[rtgwg] Invitation to the "AI Network Multicast" side meet ing at IETF 126

Yisong Liu <[email protected]> Fri, 17 Jul 2026 15:35:31 +0800 (CST)
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Dear All,





We will organize a side meeting of AI Network Multicast on Tuesday, July 21=
, 9:15-10:45 (Europe/Vienna), in room Grand Klimt Hall 3. If you are intere=
sted in AIDC or network layer multicast, please come to the side meeting to=
 discuss. If you are remote participant, please access the meeting via the =
link: https://ietf.webex.com/meet/sidemeetings2


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This side meeting builds on previous side meeting discussions and will dive=
 deeper into AI-specific multicast use cases and requirements, including Mo=
E token dispatch, while conducting preliminary technical analyses of potent=
ial solutions such as BIER enhancements and new protocol designs, with emph=
asis on reliability, scalability, and quantitative performance evaluation t=
o guide future standardization.


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Please check the initial agenda of the side meeting in the following:=20


0. Welcome & Review  Chairs=20


1. Multicast Problem Statement for AIDC  ( Junye Zhang, Remote, China Mobil=
e) =20


Abstract: Multicast is a promising technique for enhancing the efficiency o=
f point-to-multipoint data transmission during LLM training and inference i=
n AI Data Centers (AIDCs). However, AIDCs demand bidirectional interaction,=
 lossless reliability, microsecond scale dynamics, sparse groups, and simpl=
e control/data planes. This talk will give a brief problem statement of mul=
ticast in AIDCs.


2.Can LLMs Reason Structurally? Benchmarking via the lens of Data Structure=
s, with possible benefit from Multicast ( Yingxi Li, Remote, Stanford Unive=
rsity)=20


Abstract: As large language models (LLMs) are increasingly deployed on comp=
lex tasks that demand multi-step decision-making, evaluating their algorith=
mic reasoning capabilities becomes critical. This talk introduces DSR-Bench=
, a diagnostic benchmark grounded in data structures, designed to assess st=
ructural reasoning=E2=80=94the ability to perceive and manipulate relationa=
l patterns such as order, hierarchy, and connectivity, including the benchm=
ark design, the evaluation methodology, and key empirical findings. The tal=
k concludes with a brief discussion of potential implications for AI data-c=
enter networks, raising the question of whether efficient multicast communi=
cation could benefit long-context inference, inference-time search, and dis=
tributed model execution.


3.In-Network Computing on Switches (IFEC): Remodeling Multicast and Acceler=
ating Communication for AI Clusters  (Changwang Lin, On-site, Alibaba & H3C=
)


Abstract: Describe an innovative collaborative computing paradigm named IFE=
C (In Fabric Extended-Computation). Its core objective is to address the wo=
rsening cross-xPU communication bottlenecks in large-scale AI training and =
inference, driven by rising model parallelism and the widespread adoption o=
f architectures such as MoE.


4.  Multicast in Scale-Up (Haibo Wang, On-site, Huawei)


Abstract: With the rapid development of AI services, optimizing AI cluster =
performance has become increasingly important. Notably, some AI service sce=
narios may exhibit multicast-like communication patterns (e.g., MOE dispatc=
h).Traditional network multicast relies on single-direction forwarding, whi=
ch conflicts with key AI service requirements: interactivity, reliability, =
dynamics, and sparsity. These mismatches introduce significant challenges i=
n scale-out network. Interestingly, when AI services operate within a scale=
-up network, these challenges become more manageable. Consequently, we prop=
ose first focusing on leveraging multicast to enhance scale-up AI service p=
erformance, before extending the solution to broader distributed deployment=
s.


5. Open Discussion


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Welcome to join us! We hope to see you there!


If you have any questions, please feel free to contact us: liuyisong@chinam=
obile.com, [email protected]






Best Regards

Yisong




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al" style=3D""><font face=3D"=E5=BE=AE=E8=BD=AF=E9=9B=85=E9=BB=91" size=3D"=
3">We will organize a side meeting of&nbsp;AI Network&nbsp;Multicast&nbsp;o=
n&nbsp;<b>Tuesday, July&nbsp;21, 9:15-10:45</b>&nbsp;(Europe/Vienna), in <b=
>room Grand Klimt Hall 3</b>. If you are interested in AIDC or network laye=
r multicast, please come to the side meeting to discuss. If you are remote =
participant, please access the meeting via the link: https://ietf.webex.com=
/meet/sidemeetings2<o:p></o:p></font></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"">=
<font face=3D"=E5=BE=AE=E8=BD=AF=E9=9B=85=E9=BB=91" size=3D"3">&nbsp;<o:p><=
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=E8=BD=AF=E9=9B=85=E9=BB=91" size=3D"3">This side meeting builds on previou=
s side meeting discussions and will dive deeper into AI-specific multicast =
use cases and requirements, including MoE token dispatch, while conducting =
preliminary technical analyses of potential solutions such as BIER enhancem=
ents and new protocol designs, with emphasis on reliability, scalability, a=
nd quantitative performance evaluation to guide future standardization.<o:p=
></o:p></font></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D""><font face=3D"=E5=BE=AE=
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=91" size=3D"3">Please check the initial&nbsp;<font style=3D"">agenda of th=
e side meeting in the following:&nbsp;</font><o:p></o:p></font></p><p class=
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=91" size=3D"3"><b>0.&nbsp;Welcome &amp; Review &nbsp;Chairs</b>&nbsp;<o:p>=
</o:p></font></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D""><font face=3D"=E5=BE=AE=
=E8=BD=AF=E9=9B=85=E9=BB=91" size=3D"3"><b>1.&nbsp;Multicast Problem Statem=
ent for AIDC &nbsp;( Junye Zhang, Remote, China Mobile)</b>&nbsp;&nbsp;<o:p=
></o:p></font></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D""><font face=3D"=E5=BE=AE=
=E8=BD=AF=E9=9B=85=E9=BB=91" size=3D"3"><b>Abstract:</b> Multicast is a pro=
mising technique for enhancing the efficiency of point-to-multipoint data t=
ransmission during LLM training and inference in AI Data Centers (AIDCs). H=
owever, AIDCs demand bidirectional interaction, lossless reliability, micro=
second scale dynamics, sparse groups, and simple control/data planes. This =
talk will give a brief problem statement of multicast in AIDCs.<o:p></o:p><=
/font></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D""><!--[if !supportLists]--><font =
face=3D"=E5=BE=AE=E8=BD=AF=E9=9B=85=E9=BB=91" size=3D"3"><b><span style=3D"=
mso-list:Ignore;">2.</span>Can LLMs Reason Structurally? Benchmarking via t=
he lens of Data Structures, with possible benefit from Multicast ( Yingxi L=
i, Remote, Stanford University)</b>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></font></p><p class=3D"=
MsoNormal" style=3D""><font face=3D"=E5=BE=AE=E8=BD=AF=E9=9B=85=E9=BB=91" s=
ize=3D"3"><b>Abstract: </b>As large language models (LLMs) are increasingly=
 deployed on complex tasks that demand multi-step decision-making, evaluati=
ng their algorithmic reasoning capabilities becomes critical. This talk int=
roduces DSR-Bench, a diagnostic benchmark grounded in data structures, desi=
gned to assess structural reasoning=E2=80=94the ability to perceive and man=
ipulate relational patterns such as order, hierarchy, and connectivity, inc=
luding the benchmark design, the evaluation methodology, and key empirical =
findings. The talk concludes with a brief discussion of potential implicati=
ons for AI data-center networks, raising the question of whether efficient =
multicast communication could benefit long-context inference, inference-tim=
e search, and distributed model execution.<o:p></o:p></font></p><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left: 0pt; text-indent: 0pt;"><!--[if !supportL=
ists]--><font face=3D"=E5=BE=AE=E8=BD=AF=E9=9B=85=E9=BB=91" size=3D"3"><b><=
span style=3D"mso-list:Ignore;">3.</span>In-Network Computing on Switches (=
IFEC): Remodeling Multicast and Accelerating Communication for AI Clusters =
&nbsp;(Changwang Lin, On-site, Alibaba &amp; H3C)</b><o:p></o:p></font></p>=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D""><font face=3D"=E5=BE=AE=E8=BD=AF=E9=9B=85=
=E9=BB=91" size=3D"3"><b>Abstract: </b>Describe an innovative collaborative=
 computing paradigm named IFEC (In Fabric Extended-Computation). Its core o=
bjective is to address the worsening cross-xPU communication bottlenecks in=
 large-scale AI training and inference, driven by rising model parallelism =
and the widespread adoption of architectures such as MoE.<o:p></o:p></font>=
</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D""><font face=3D"=E5=BE=AE=E8=BD=AF=E9=
=9B=85=E9=BB=91" size=3D"3"><b>4.&nbsp;&nbsp;Multicast in Scale-Up (Haibo W=
ang, On-site, Huawei)</b><o:p></o:p></font></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=
=3D""><font face=3D"=E5=BE=AE=E8=BD=AF=E9=9B=85=E9=BB=91" size=3D"3"><b>Abs=
tract:</b> With the rapid development of AI services, optimizing AI cluster=
 performance has become increasingly important. Notably, some AI service sc=
enarios may exhibit multicast-like communication patterns (e.g., MOE dispat=
ch).Traditional network multicast relies on single-direction forwarding, wh=
ich conflicts with key AI service requirements: interactivity, reliability,=
 dynamics, and sparsity. These mismatches introduce significant challenges =
in scale-out network. Interestingly, when AI services operate within a scal=
e-up network, these challenges become more manageable. Consequently, we pro=
pose first focusing on leveraging multicast to enhance scale-up AI service =
performance, before extending the solution to broader distributed deploymen=
ts.</font></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D""><font face=3D"=E5=BE=AE=E8=
=BD=AF=E9=9B=85=E9=BB=91" size=3D"3"><b>5.&nbsp;Open Discussion</b><o:p></o=
:p></font></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D""><font face=3D"=E5=BE=AE=E8=
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ing: 0pt; background: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><font face=3D"=E5=BE=AE=E8=BD=AF=
=E9=9B=85=E9=BB=91" size=3D"3">Welcome to join us! We hope to see you there=
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ease feel free to contact us: <span><a href=3D"mailto:liuyisong@chinamobile=
.com">[email protected]</a></span>, <span><a href=3D"mailto:mmcbrid=
[email protected]">[email protected]</a></span></font></p><!--EndFragment--></=
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