Re: RE: PCLS classes deprecated in PCELS

Joel M. Halpern wrote, On 09/12/03 09:43:
> Given the discussion about the relationship between PCLS and the 
> proposed PCELS, allow me to ask a naive question please.
> 
> There were some significant structural changes introduced between PCIM 
> and PCIMe.  They were introduced to address problems with the PCIM 
> structuring when other folks tried to use that as a basis for work.
> Folks seem (as I read the exchanges) to be objecting to the 
> corresponding changes in the LDAP schema.
> Are the folks who implemented PCLS and are concerned about the changes 
> expecting to support PCIMe?
> If you are expecting to support PCIMe, how would you expect to deal with 
> the fact that there are structural changes in the underlying model?
> 


I disagreed (in this forum) with some of the strategies of PCIMe.
My concerns were not accomodated in the discussion or the design.
Ultimately, I made a personal choice not to pursue my points further,
as I recognize that intelligent, experienced, and reasonable people
may disagree without causing harm.

As far as I was concerned, PCIM and PCLS were already accomplished
work, work with which I agreed, and work upon which I could (and did)
build further. I have not experienced "problems with the PCIM
structuring", quite the opposite. I have found PCIM and PCLS to be
elegant, thorough, and highly serviceable designs. My work does not
require the restructuring and additional complexity of PCIMe. Neither
does my work require the QoS-specific components of PCIMe and PCELS.

I don't have a requirement for PCIMe. I don't anticipate modifying
my work to accomodate PCIMe.

I see PCIMe as a departure from PCIM's simplicity and elegance. I
see PCIMe as one of many possible elaborations upon PCIM's model.
Even with that unfortunate "Update" word in RFC 3460, I still consider
PCIM (RFC 3060) to be an authoritative document which describes a
viable model.

In the same spirit, I really want to see PCLS become an RFC. And
I especially don't want PCELS to clobber it or impinge upon it
in any way.


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