Re: forging a new pppext charter

Thomas Narten writes:
> > 	- Names of volunteers to serve as document editors for those
> >           updates.
> 
> But the goal is meaningless if there are no volunteers to do the
> work...

Yes; I think we need to identify those first, before publishing a
charter with those goals, or just give that up for now as a goal and
wait until people either step forward or forget about the problem.

> The IESG discussed the PPPEXT WG recently, noting that having the WG
> for the above reason was useful, but also recognizing that it doesn't
> make sense to charter a WG with milestones that it won't actually
> deliver on. Traditionally, the IESG hasn't chartered WGs that have no
> deliverables. However, this WG is one that could be described as a
> "maintenance WG". Doesn't really have any concrete deliverables,
> doesn't meet at face-to-face meetings but exists to deal with issues
> as they come up. The IESG indicated it would be willing to charter
> such an WG so long at it was clear that this was being chartered as a
> bit of an experiment as a "maintenance group". I'd like to see this
> done.

That seems mostly fine to me, presuming we don't find any
victi^Wvolunteers for the document-updating effort.

As coincidence would have it, here's what I spent my vacation day
yesterday scratching out ...

Recommendations for future working group efforts:

	- Write update for RFC 1332, removing IP-Addresses, adding
          informative references to Proposed Standard RFCs 1144 (002d
          hex), 3241 (0003 hex), and 3544 (0061 hex) for the header
          compression methods, and removing Appendix A.

	- Write applicability statement (see RFC 2026 section 3) for
          IPCP, with IP-Address option 'Required' for all links (I
          believe the "only on dial-up" phrase in Appendix A was an
          error), and IP-Compression-Protocol option 'Elective' and
          intended for low-speed links, and noting that application-
          protocol specific extensions (such as DNS server addresses
          and the like) should be implemented using DHCP extensions
          rather than IPCP options.

	- Advance the new IPCP to Draft Standard.  Need references for
          implementations (shouldn't be too hard).

	- Consider reclassifying RFC 2153 as Proposed Standard.

	- Look over the MIBs (RFCs 1471-1474).  I think they're mostly
          out of date and incomplete.  Each needs a rewrite to get to
          Draft Standard.

	- Consider writing a new Proposed Standard version of PAP to
	  complement RFC 1994.  I don't think that we're served well
	  by leaving this out, and there are certainly important cases
	  in which it's useful.

	- What to do about RFC 2125 (BACP)?  Do we have evidence that
          this is worthwhile retaining on standards track, or should
          it be made Historic?

	- How about ECP (RFCs 1968, 2419, 2420)?  What implementations
          exist?

	- Advancing non-IP NCPs (RFCs 1377, 1378, 1552, 1762, 1763,
          1764, 2043, 2097, 3518) along standards track -- need
          reports of implementation and interoperability.

	- Advance PPP over X (RFCs 1598, 1618, 1973, 2363, 2364, 2615,
          3255, 3336, 3337) along standards track -- need reports.

	- The rest (1553, 1570, 1663, 1962, 1989, 1990, 1994, 2484,
	  2823, 3153, and 3544)


Rough list of RFCs in scope for PPP Extensions working group:

Level RFC  Summary
PS    1332 The PPP Internet Protocol Control Protocol (IPCP)
PS    1377 The PPP OSI Network Layer Control Protocol (OSINLCP)
PS    1378 The PPP AppleTalk Control Protocol (ATCP)
PS    1471 The Def. of Managed Objects for the LCP of the PPP
PS    1472 The Def. of Managed Objects for the Security Protocols of PPP
PS    1473 The Def. of Managed Objects for the IP NCP of the PPP
PS    1474 The Def. of Managed Objects for the Bridge NCP of the PPP
PS    1552 The PPP Internetworking Packet Exchange Control Protocol
PS    1553 Compressing IPX Headers Over WAN Media (CIPX)
PS    1570 PPP LCP Extensions
PS    1598 PPP in X.25
PS    1618 PPP over ISDN
Inf.  1634 Novell IPX Over Various WAN Media (IPXWAN)
Std   1661 The Point-to-Point Protocol (PPP)
Std   1662 PPP in HDLC-like Framing
PS    1663 PPP Reliable Transmission
DS    1762 The PPP DECnet Phase IV Control Protocol (DNCP)
PS    1763 The PPP Banyan Vines Control Protocol (BVCP)
PS    1764 The PPP XNS IDP Control Protocol (XNSCP)
Inf.  1841 PPP Network Control Protocol for LAN Extension
Inf.  1877 PPP IPCP Extensions for Name Server Addresses
BCP   1915 Variance for The PPP CCP and The PPP ECP
Inf.  1934 Ascend's Multilink Protocol Plus (MP+)
PS    1962 The PPP Compression Control Protocol (CCP)
Inf.  1963 PPP Serial Data Transport Protocol (SDTP)
Inf.  1967 PPP LZS-DCP Compression Protocol (LZS-DCP)
PS    1968 The PPP Encryption Control Protocol (ECP)
PS    1973 PPP in Frame Relay
Inf.  1974 PPP Stac LZS Compression Protocol
Inf.  1975 PPP Magnalink Variable Resource Compression
Inf.  1976 PPP for Data Compression in Data Circuit-Terminating Equipment
Inf.  1977 PPP BSD Compression Protocol
Inf.  1978 PPP Predictor Compression Protocol
Inf.  1979 PPP Deflate Protocol
DS    1989 PPP Link Quality Monitoring
DS    1990 The PPP Multilink Protocol (MP)
Inf.  1993 PPP Gandalf FZA Compression Protocol
DS    1994 PPP Challenge Handshake Authentication Protocol (CHAP)
PS    2043 The PPP SNA Control Protocol (SNACP)
PS    2097 The PPP NetBIOS Frames Control Protocol (NBFCP)
Inf.  2118 Microsoft Point-To-Point Compression (MPPC) Protocol
PS    2125 The PPP Bandwidth Allocation Protocol (BAP) / The PPP BACP
Inf.  2153 PPP Vendor Extensions
PS    2363 PPP Over FUNI
PS    2364 PPP Over AAL5
PS    2419 The PPP DES Encryption Protocol, Version 2 (DESE-bis)
PS    2420 The PPP Triple-DES Encryption Protocol (3DESE)
Inf.  2433 Microsoft PPP CHAP Extensions
PS    2484 PPP LCP Internationalization Configuration Option
PS    2615 PPP over SONET/SDH
Inf.  2701 Multi-link Multi-node PPP Bundle Discovery Protocol
Inf.  2759 Microsoft PPP CHAP Extensions, Version 2
Exp.  2823 PPP over SDL using SONET/SDH with ATM-like framing
Inf.  3078 Microsoft Point-To-Point Encryption (MPPE) Protocol
Inf.  3079 Deriving Keys for use with MPPE
PS    3153 PPP Multiplexing
Inf.  3186 MAPOS/PPP Tunneling mode
PS    3255 Extending PPP over SONET/SDH with VC, HO and LO payloads
PS    3336 PPP Over Asynchronous Transfer Mode Adaptation Layer 2 (AAL2)
PS    3337 Class Extensions for PPP over AAL2
PS    3518 PPP Bridging Control Protocol (BCP)
PS    3544 IP Header Compression over PPP

RFCs of interest, but not necessarily in scope:

Level RFC  Summary
PS    2284 PPP Extensible Authentication Protocol (EAP)
PS    2290 Mobile-IPv4 Configuration Option for PPP IPCP
Hist. 2341 Cisco Layer Two Forwarding (Protocol) "L2F"
PS    2472 IP Version 6 over PPP
Inf.  2516 A Method for Transmitting PPP Over Ethernet (PPPoE)
Inf.  2637 Point-to-Point Tunneling Protocol
PS    2661 Layer Two Tunneling Protocol "L2TP"
PS    2686 The Multi-Class Extension to Multi-Link PPP
PS    2687 PPP in a Real-time Oriented HDLC-like Framing
Exp.  2716 PPP EAP TLS Authentication Protocol
PS    3032 MPLS Label Stack Encoding
PS    3241 Robust Header Compression (ROHC) over PPP


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