Re: Old RFCs going to Historic

James Carlson <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.ietf.pppext
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Carsten Bormann writes:
> > Those marked with "X" below have NOT been stricken from the list and
> > will become Historic unless someone speaks up.  This includes
> > AppleTalk, IPX, and the PPP MIBs.
> 
> This makes me rather curious about the intent.

I came to this rather late, by way of a cc on someone else's reply to
the list.  I think the intent is to make as many old things Historic
as possible, and the chosen method is to mark everything prior to some
date (2000, perhaps) as "on the list," and request that those who care
about those older documents complain to the document editor.

> > X RFC1378 The PPP AppleTalk Control Protocol (ATCP)
> > X RFC1552 The PPP Internetworking Packet Exchange Control Protocol
> > 	  (IPXCP)
> 
> AT and IPX may be historic, but if you still have them, these documents 
> describe the currently agreed way how to send them over PPP, no?
> (But then, I don't care about AT or IPX.)

They do continue to describe those protocols, and RFCs are effectively
immutable, but I think the intent is to say that new implementations
ought not bother with them.

> > X RFC1618 PPP over ISDN
> 
> While this is not a particularly great document, I believe it is the 
> standard for PPP over ISDN (B channels).
> (In case you don't know, ISDN is 20 years old but definitely *not* any 
> more historic at this time than is analog telephony.)
> 
> Something is getting derailed about this whole de-crufting process here.

That's somewhat close to what I said in an earlier message to that
group.

As for RFC 1618, it has had trouble with reality (is octet sync really
recommended with ISDN?), but perhaps needs to be removed from the
list.

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